we would give him our highest accolade and say he has obuntu, that marvelous quality that speaks of compassion and generosity, about sharing, about hospitality, that's what bishop desmond tutu said about you. i think there are a lot of people who would even like for him to know where they are? >> i am pretty good pr. he is an amazing man that's been -- a lot of the elders were all of them in their own ways are just extraordinary people to be around, and i feel very privileged, you know, when we can listen in to the meeting some of the time. >> what is in your heart? why are you doing all of this? it's a bigger part of your life think? >> it's about a third, a third, a third with this benefit work music and tech. i love tech stuff. and i think to me, i think it's my dad's genes of invention, you know, in social invention is maybe a part of the contemporary invents ors palate. >> let's talk a little bit about music, what you call a third. you are back to front tour, traveling to europe soon. i was interested in the -- what you are calling "the tour," the back to front tour. >> it's my first back