. >> other meeting to watch include occidental petroleum, shareholders now focus directors, with theeplace the ceo, supporters of mr. chasen may seek to unseat directors who don't back him and in the wake of the london trading loss, jamie dimon faces a challenge to his chairmanship at the annualç meeting on may 21st. the bank board is lobbying shareholders to defeat that proposal. they maintain the say on pay vote is to gain dissatisfaction with either performance or compensation. so far this season, five firms voting down the firm's pay plan including the one at navistar. >> mary, so interesting, of course, you had chris on from iss, and i notice their advice -- advice can play an important role in a lot of these kinds of services -- a lot of these fights and of course, there is some debate about whether that should be the case and whether iss' analysis is one that should be listened to, but very interesting and certainly an important time of the year that they were headed into. >> it is. as he was mentioning again, and it's the rise of the activist shareholder. the concern about p