o ock oculus tv and then venues which would bring thousands of people into a space to watch a live event. >> his question reminded me of the movie "ready player one" where everyone was isolated in real life but all doing something together in virtual life. what did you think of the movie as far as demonstrating perhaps the future of virtual reality? >> well i like the movie a little bit more than the book. but it is also a very, very narrow selection of what that virtual universe gains -- >> it is a very gaming centric version and oasis which is the meta-verse in ready player one is much larger than that but the story takes place in this gaming threat. and games were of course the first thing that really started making money in vr. so people think of it as a gaming technology. but it is just already transformative of education and therapy and engineering and other fields. social is a thing -- as a term to just mean things we do together. and this is a thing that is getting an unbelievable amount of traction among users and i think people who are creating experiences in this world is taki