last year he offered a budget that the senate, controlled by --ocrats, rejected 970, but rejected 97-0. this is serious, and it does it with the tax reform, as reagan ended with a tip o'neill, the most successful legislation of the last quarter-century, and what obama's own a debt reduction commission recommended an obama rejected. it lowers rates but eliminates loopholes. those loopholes, cent of -- $7 out of every $10, go to the top quintile of income. you are changing the way the irs is collecting taxes and doing it in a rational way. >> it is the budget on paper. it is not happen in reality. taking away loopholes in theory, but it is not going to work out that way. no cuts to defense, cuts to every program for the poor and disabled and lower middle classes, and structural things for the country. i don't think that is something people really want. >> people was taken a serious look at the budget have said the same thing. you cannot have only tax cuts, but you also need revenue enhancement. ryan's budget does not touch revenue at all. he is true to his principles. it is not a disser