it's ring central, it's z scaler, it's crowd strike, it's kupa here it's happening again, octa.s there anything that can stop octa, which is really a passport company. >> teladoc. >> teladoc. >> zoom today. >> salesforce.com. >> this is not what we want, carl we want -- we don't trade the small guys, right? we don't trade nicola's pizza from rehoboth that i believe senator, vice president -- whatever, biden has been to many times. we are really -- we are seeing pizza shops close in front of our eyes and it doesn't matter why? because -- i don't know, i happen to like domino's, it's fantastic on delivery, really fantastic, but i do think that when you get on the pedestal you don't have to touch anybody, it's great walmart, they do the curbside, it's great but, carl, how do you do curbside if you are a one-company shop how do you do it are you going to go out there and run it while someone is at the register you have to hire someone i mean, i don't think -- they've got to move fast we need ppp fast and we need oracle, of course, to buy tiktok. >> right. >> trying to do my best her