>> i believe that san francisco is in some ways to the nation what odc is to san francisco, which is to say that i believe the west coast is the hotbed for innovation. i think it is where major cultural innovations happen, where huge ideas are born and often raised up. it may not often be the marketplace that other major metropolitan areas are, but i do think is the center of where creativity sits. i think that what odc can do by becoming this level of institution is raise the platform of san francisco. i name -- in many ways, it is sort of a death process, but putting an artist in contact with recording artists, with other major areas, with exchange companies around the country and the world will become a central part of what we do. >> it is clear that now there is a campus that has been built out and filled in, that odc is playing this fabulous supportive and incubated role, both for san francisco, the bay area, and the country. thank you so much for being part of "culturewire." >> my pleasure. >> and for contributing so much to the performing arts of our city. >> for more informat