look, in terms of winning, if they nominate somebody who is also,oderate, but can like joe biden keeps me up at night. the reason is because he is perceived as moderate come up but has credibility with working-class voters. in 2020the entire game is where the republicans can re-create that coalition of 2016 or not, and losing the working-class voters in a 2020 of election would make it hard for republicans to win. susan: we can end with a quick question. you are fine. that is it for our time. thank you for being our guest on "newsmakers." "newsmakers" announcer: is back with announcer: i reporters with the head of heritage action for america, the policy group for the heritage foundation am a tim chapman. the ideological soulmates of the heritage foundation are the freedom caucus members. they are the minority of the minority. what kind of power will they have from a policy perspective and a new congress? >> you're talking about mark , the mostim jordan ultraconservative members of the house republican caucus. they have a very small percentage at this point of the entire house of repres

. >> woodruff: obviously, y f have a lot oderal employees in the state of maryland.t are you hearing from your nstituents right now? >> i'm hearing two this, judy. first and foremost, people want to get back and do their jobsan for the amereople. i mean, these are people who are civil servants, but they're also telling stories about how they're getting tot squeezed, right. i mean, their paychecks have stopped but the bills keep coming in so lots of them are having trouble paying their rent and their mortgagesok i to the head of the community college recently who said that they were having to work out payment pla beause parents who work for the federal government, parents who have students at college couldn't make the monthly ilmnstt plans. so this is really squeezing the pocketbooks and that's why you're seeingen those 100,000 ouployees who are still being asked to work t pay, they're not able to cover some of their very basic expenses, ke getting to work. it's costing them to do their work for the federal government. >> woodruff: senator, on just the basic proposal

president sobornerjury about not just about a general matter of government but tell somebody to lie in oderprotect your own business interest and your own private conduc that cant be allowed. it can't be allowed is bill barr for attorney general are questions that nowound press yent. >> woodruff: david it looks like a number of democrats whoo want president themself is not waiting whether there will be impeachment proceedings. they're out on the campaign trail, either formed an exploratory committee or they said i'm running, we can nae a few of them, elizabeth warren last week and you had th former more of san antonio, mr. castro. you have this week both tulsi gabbard -- just to name a few. is therye anthing coming through. >> yes, which is i'm sorry. they're all apologizing for something. bernie sanders is apologizing because his campai had aleged sexual huh ration. jillibran is sorry because she supports begun rights d others are sorry because of their stance on gay marriage. the democratic party has moved ft so all the candidates are catching all and apologizing for the past vesws. this

kristen welker, thanks for that characterization of what's i want to go to chuck todd right now,oderator of "meet the press." chuck, as i noted with pete a moment ago, there's going to ot a of parsing of this indictment. it appears the white house was caught off guard. i don't think anyone was surprised roger stone was in legal jeopardy but the timing certainly seemed to su a rise. what does it all mean? >> the most important part of , i know there's a lot of focus on the process side of this indictment. but it is the beginning of robert mueller laying out the collusion argument between a wikileak russia. and in many ways, i have to admit, lester, i am now rethinking tha rudy giulia -- that surprising rudy giuliani statement about ten days ago when he clarified his denials about clusion and said the president didn't collude with anybody and he wouldn't -- he wouldn't -- he told me on sunday that he couldn't rule out others on the campaigndid. well, lo and behold, that's what this indictment shows is someong on the cam certainly was colluding with roger stone who was colluding with wikile