i could think of no one more qualified to make that tonsition from nsa, odni cia. in his spare time since leaving cia, in early 2009, he's dedicated himself to speaking and writing. he is one of the great stalwarts of intelligence that we have. it is a real privilege to have mike to my immediate left. ben powell once removed there is theone -- you know you have lawyer at the other end when you read up his bio and it's four pages long. in the early to mid to thousands , was very instrumental in terms of his role in the irtpa. as my principal lawyer as i sat down with him at the national security council staff, anything that came out wrong, blame him. i tried to get it right. no good deed goes unpunished. he went on to become general .ounsel at pni the no good deed goes unpunished was very instrumental in shaping the amendments, executive order that goes back to 1981 but was updated then and signed by george w. bush as president in july of 2008. there is a commonality between the two of them. they are both air force. in terms of their background. it is absolutely a de

cia. and i could think of no one more qualified to make that transition from nsa, odni and then to cia. and in his spare time since leaving cia in early 2009, he has dedicated himself to speaking and writing. and he is, as i said, one of the great stalwarts of intelligence that we have. and it's a real privilege to have mike to my immediate left. ben powell once removed there is someone -- and you know that you have a lawyer at the other end when you write off his bio at four pages long. very distinguished lawyer with wilmer hale now but goes back to our life together in the national security council staff in mid-2000s, early to mid-2000s, was very instrumental in terms of his role in the irtpa, the intelligence reform and terrorism prevention act. as my principal lawyer as i sat down to quarter from him at the national security council staff. anything that came out wrong in irtpa, blame him. i tried to get it right. but -- and no good deed goes unpunished, went on to become general counsel at the dni as the first general council under mike and mike caden and myself as chief of staff th