what does it do for the standing of the catholic church if they take that approach? >> i think they become relevant in a lot of places they are not relevant today. book andreland in the if you went to ireland in the 90's, you could not get into a church on sunday morning. if you were a minute late, it was packed. today, they are more than half empty. the decline of the catholic church as immoral institution, as a beacon for people of faith and of morality is undeniable. for the priests because people see someone in the color and are automatically skeptical. tavis: i was going ask you about that. the overwhelming majority of people playing baseball are not substance abusers, they are athletes. a lot of high-profile people that were not. they give everybody else a bad name. how much of this is unfair to the catholic church? >> the church is the people, the church is not the bishops and cardinals. it was around 12% or 13% accused, that is shockingly high. closer tot number is five or six. i think they have been shaken by this and they are moving to put procedures in plac

a lot of people, they call themselves catholic on this case, but mostly because of tradition. they don't really know anything about it. >> what these worshipers do know is that they've found a home in this evangelical protestant church. >> they like to be feeling free, freedom to worship the lord with our heart. the way the lord likes it is when we do it with all our heart. >> most hispanics in the united states still call themselves catholic. they make up an increasing proportion of the church. over the past 15 years, the number of catholic churches offering mass in spanish has tripled to more than a quarter of all parishes. >> the response never seems to be enough for the numbers because every time a parish opens the door and welcomes immigrants, it's filled up. the influx of immigrant catholics has kept the catholic church membership around 70 million, so that's definitely a trend. >> almost half of catholics under 40 are latinos, according to the pew research center. but the church's hold on second and third generation hispanics is not as strong. just 40% of latinos whose

tens of thousands throng the streets to get a glimpse of the leader of the catholic church. -- it's a headache for security officials, but part of the pontiff's desire to connect with the people. over 1.5 million faithful are expected to turn out to see him in the coming days. >> i am deeply moved. >> after his journey through downtown rio, the pope was hosted by the brazilian president at the governor's palace. francis' visit comes in the middle of widespread social unrest. for weeks, there has been widespread protest against government corruption and spending. clashes broke out near the governor's palace monday night after the pope left the building. >> the government is the problem. the pope's visit is costing over 50 million dollars -- that's too much. that money could have been invested in health or education. >> although the protesters are dismayed at the amount being spent on the trip, they have made clear that their anger is directed at the brazilian government, not at pope francis. >> we are now on the line to our correspondent in rio de janeiro. as we heard, plenty of critic

tens of thousands throng the streets to get a glimpse of the leader of the catholic church. -- it's a headache for security officials, but part of the pontiff's desire to connect with the people. over 1.5 million faithful are expected to turn out to see him in the coming days. >> i am deeply moved. >> after his journey through downtown rio, the pope was hosted by the brazilian president at the governor's palace. francis' visit comes in the middle of widespread social unrest. for weeks, there has been widespread protest against government corruption and spending. clashes broke out near the governor's palace monday night after the pope left the building. >> the government is the problem. the pope's visit is costing over 50 million dollars -- that's too much. that money could have been invested in health or education. >> although the protesters are dismayed at the amount being spent on the trip, they have made clear that their anger is directed at the brazilian government, not at pope francis. >> we are now on the line to our correspondent in rio de janeiro. as we heard, plenty of critic

of a highway. >> in nine candid interview, pope francis tells reporters, who am i to judge gay people? and says women should play a greater role in the catholic church. the u.s. secretary of state says he is confident he's is possible in the middle east. preliminary talks are set to begin in just a few hours in washington. >> at the press conference, he introduced his special envoy area -- envoy. he described the upcoming challenge as daunting and humbling. >> the most recent negotiations broke down three years ago amid israel's continuing security concerns in thorny issues among a future palestinian state. >> jerusalem. a holy city to three major religions is just one bone of content. at the border between israel and the bank runs through the city but israel claims the whole of jerusalem for itself. this is the western wall. the holiest site for the jews. the situation throughout the west bank is equally complicated. spread over hundreds of official and illegal settlements. they also make a potential boundary even more complicated. the palestinians insist on the borders that existed in the war before 1967. over the past decade, seen here in

of a highway. >> in nine candid interview, pope francis tells reporters, who am i to judge gay people? and says women should play a greater role in the catholic church. the u.s. secretary of state says he is confident he's is possible in the middle east. preliminary talks are set to begin in just a few hours in washington. >> at the press conference, he introduced his special envoy area -- envoy. he described the upcoming challenge as daunting and humbling. >> the most recent negotiations broke down three years ago amid israel's continuing security concerns in thorny issues among a future palestinian state. >> jerusalem. a holy city to three major religions is just one bone of content. at the border between israel and the bank runs through the city but israel claims the whole of jerusalem for itself. this is the western wall. the holiest site for the jews. the situation throughout the west bank is equally complicated. spread over hundreds of official and illegal settlements. they also make a potential boundary even more complicated. the palestinians insist on the borders that existed in the war before 1967. over the past decade, seen here in

he has not discussed things like abortion, gay rights, the question of celibacy in the catholic church, which is a huge problem. some hope he will eventually get around to that. he is picking his battles for now. >> thank you so much. the driver of the train that crashed in spain last week telling 79 people has arrived in court to be questioned by a onge. he has been detained suspicion of negligent homicide. so far he has exercised his right to remain silent. the spanish prime minister and royal family are expected to attend a memorial service in santiago on monday. >> it's a path trodden by christian pilgrims were ages. the way of st. james, the apostle whose remains are thought to be buried here. these are the last steps on a journey that can take months. on this occasion, arriving in a town in mourning for the victims of the rail disaster on wednesday. >> today, on the last few kilometers, i was thinking about this. for many people, life changes. they want to go to camino and some of them died. some of them were injured. i was thinking about the families and in life, sometimes somet

accommodate religious objections but a broad coalition, including members of the us conference of catholicishops and the southern baptist convention, say the policy still violates religious freedom. >> we want people of belief and of conscience to be able to run their businesses and their daily activities according to christian principles should they choose to do so. >> meanwhile, several businesses who also have moral objections have sued the administration over the mandate. an appeals court recently ruled the owners of the arts and crafts store chain, hobby lobby, will not have to pay penalties for not complying with the mandate while they challenge the policy in court. those fines might have been as high as $1.3 million a day. in other news, church files made public this week by the catholic archdiocese of milwaukee show that priests accused of sexual abuse were often transferred between parishes instead of being removed from the priesthood. the former archbishop of milwaukee timothy dolan, now a cardinal and head of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops, was not involved in that prac

of a woman. and -- >> john: on easter. >> and on easter. you are a good catholic. i can tell who your mama was. >> john: the pope might disagree. >> we have something new now happening in the church. for awhile, for under the last two popes, there was a lot of emphasis on orthodoxy and being tried and true catholics and all of that. that doesn't mean that's gone away. there is a new emphasis. it is like get to where the suffering people are. be what jesus was in the world. and so the pope is urging us to get on the margins. that's what happened to me with the death penalty. when i woke up, that the gospel of jesus wasn't just about being a polite christian and being a holy nun and praying and i do pray. it is the way i know what i'm supposed to be doing in my life. but i had grown up in privilege as a young, white girl in baton rouge, louisiana and i only knew african american people as our servants. i moved into the st. thomas housing projects and african-american people became my teachers of the other american how things work. if you were poor and if you were blac

they have the largest number of catholics of any country in the world. he will also visit some of the poorest slums. a week before he arrives but in rio de janeiro, pope francis is everywhere you look. for its playful carnival and parades, is getting itself in the mood for a party. it has taken a lot of planning, not the least of which is taking out the dry runs of the popes route. youthl preside over world day beginning on the 23rd of july. more than one million young catholics are expected to arrive in the city. >> in the history of the country, it was never an event of the magnitude that world youth day and what it brings to the city. >> one of the highlights of the visit will be a mass on copacabana beach. a man known for his simple and austere approach him a it is thought that he will lead the faithful in an open top jeep. one of the stops in his visit in a poor area. where drug trafficking and violence are rampant until recently. the police moved in or so-called pacifying operations. >> i would at least try to get close to him. i wouldn't want him

i think it is a worldwide. >> conference of catholic ships. and excellent resources. everything from the pope's speech is where he proclaimed the year of faith to resources, ideas. suggestions. >> it is great. all sorts of prayers. what ever you want. you will find it there. >> the pictures are really pretty, too. we are getting ready for another break. when i come back i want to go back and discuss indulgences. >> maybe you can tell us a little bit more about indulgences. >> that is something we never get tired of hearing about. >> because they get us. right. so we will talk about that when we come back. thanks. . >>> welcome back to mosaic. this is the interim director in the office of worship. i am vickie evans, the of office coordinator and head of public social concerns. we are talking about the year of faith. laura has walked us through and what it is. and the reasons. and the fact that there are some indulgences attached to the year of faith. >> laura, you are going to tell us about that now. indulgences are a very important and misunderstood topic. >> in many w

pope francis on his first international visit had to brazil, the country with the highest number of catholics in the world. the cavalcade was greeted by thousands of the faithful. clashes continued egypt between pro and anti morsi factions. the family makes a legal complaint of what they are calling an abduction. catherine, duchess of cambridge, has given birth to of baby boy. she was admitted to hospital in london in the early hours of this monday morning. we understand that prince william was there throughout and for the delivery. there is a mass media presence outside, camped out in the streets. that is the scene even now as we speak. let's get more analysis of the situation. judith joins us by skype. give us some context of what this all means. >> i think in some ways, it is almost a shame that it is a boy because it is going to be less obvious that there has been a very real change to the system of primogeniture. in some ways, while we are making something of a noise about the fact that she has given birth to a son, in a sense, she has given birth to a child, and if it had been a daughte

of result. for his first major trip, the pope going to rio for the catholic church's world youth day. like the world cup next year and the 2016 olympics, the check is being picked up by brazilian tax payers mostly, to the equivalent of nearly 40 million euro according to a newspaper. there is a sense that that is one of the things that lead people to go out into the streets. there has not been very much coverage of it here in france, but there have been demonstrations against the money spent. >> yes, but not as much as there were before when they raise the prices of buses and the metro and there was triggered many different insurrections, basically. there was no clear opposition against the government. it was not really something like in turkey, a movement against the government. >> but those were not about the pope, the bus fares. >> no but, the prices of the stadiums, once they saw those things being made, once they saw those prices, they really started to protest, and then they started to protest against corruption, against many different things, a poor health system, lack of benefi

were held in spain this week for the more than 75 people who died in a train crash, the site of a popular catholicill gamage. many were traveling to the city to celebrate the feast day of st. james the apostle whose bones are said to be buried in the ca thookcathedral there. >>> in washington, people were called to pray for the reform. they want to pass legislation that the securesrdernd provides a pathway to citizenship. at a press conference they said immigration reform is a matter of moral emergency. >> we're here as a group of believers in jesus christ who we want them to know we're praying for them, and for justice and compassion in a system that is broken. >>> also in washington, faith groups renewed call does close the guantanamo bay prison in cuba. religious leaders fasted. as they broke the fast, they described guantanamo as an open, moral wound. >> the practice of torture. the degradation of pumen beings in body minds and spirit runs counter to our calling for a more just, compassionate and peaceful world that honors all of god's creation. >>> august 5th marks the anniversary of an a sho

that's record time in the modern history of the roman catholic church.ohn paul wasn't the only pope to be cleared for sainthood today by pope francis. the story from michelle franzen. >> reporter: during more than a quarter century as pope, john paul ii traveled the world, making history, inspiring millions, and earning their affection. at his funeral in 2005, mourners called out santo sevito, saint now. now it is -- it has happened. pope francis appearing with pope emeritus benedict announced he will become a saint, perhaps before the year is out. two miracles attributed to john paul. the healing of a brain aneurysm in a costa rican woman, which took place on the day of john paul's beatification. the miraculous cure of a french nun inflicted with parkinson's disease. another pope will be made saint as well. john xxiii, who presided over the second vat kin council. >> conservatives love john paul ii. liberals love pope john paul xxiii. what pope francis is saying, let's honor and revere both men. >> reporter: a chance to unite the catholic church. shaken

> brown: next, to brazil, the scene of the first international trip by pope francis as leader of the catholicch. margaret warner has the story. >> warner: he held a solemn ceremony for thousands inside the ornate basilica in aparecida. while outside, tens of thousands braved the cold winter rain awaiting a glimpse of pope francis and a few words in his native spanish. >> ( translated ): pray for me. pray for me. >> warner: many expressed joy at >> warner: the first latin american pope and first jesuit one came to brazil to celebrate this weekend's world youth day, a triennial event to energize young catholics. brazil has the world's largest catholic population, some 120 million. the church has lost ground to evangelical protestants in recent years. yet at each stop, francis has been greeted exuberantly. arriving monday in rio, francis dispensed with the customary bullet-proof popemobile, and was mobbed by the crowds, sparking security concerns. there have also been some scattered protests. >> ( translated ): the attention the government gave the pope's visit was $52.7 million. that's too much

nuns on the bus, which is a part of the network of national catholic social justice lobby. r james martin, editor at large for "america" magazine. sister simone, the pope also touched on the role of women in the church. he said, "we still do not have a theology of women. we need to create one. the church has discussed the ordination of women bishops and has decided against it. john paul ii gave a definitive answer to this. so that door is closed. but let us remember that mary is more important than the bishop's apostles, so women in the church are more important than bishops and priests." sister simone, what's your reaction to that? >> well, i'm not sure that we feel we're more important in the church. i think the pope's statements evidence, one, that he node that women are smart, are educated, have a lot to offer, and commented on many roles that women could play in the church. i think on the issue of ordination, however, he did say that that door is closed. but just on sunday we had the reading from the gospel of the story of the man who went and pounded on the door of his

those who want the church to reform and those who do not. ( cheers and applause ) the new pope of the roman catholicassisi, the humble saint who inspired orders of priests and nuns devoted to the poor. and when he stood on that balcony in rome, few could have been watching him more carefully than the nuns there in st. peter's square and in the united states. in his native argentina, he showed compassion to the people, but also urged catholic sisters there to promote conservative social values, very much like what the vatican has been doing in the united states. that's drawn a lot of attention to sisters like pat farrell, who leads the group that represents 80% of american nuns. you became a nun, i would imagine, for a life of prayer and contemplation and good works. >> farrell: that's correct. >> simon: and all of a sudden, you've become a rock star. >> farrell: it's very strange. it's a very strange position to be in. >> simon: are you enjoying it? >> farrell: no, i'm not someone who prefers to be in the limelight, truthfully. >> simon: she was thrust into the limelight last year when the vatican a

in other news, church files made public this week by the catholic archdiocese of milwaukee show that priests accused of sexual abuse were often transferred between parishes instead of being removed from the priesthood. the former archbishop of milwaukee timothy dolan, now a cardinal and head of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops, was not involved in that practice but questions have arisen over how he responded to the scandal. the documents confirm that accused priests were paid up to $20,000 to leave the priesthood and that church funds were moved into a trust so the money would be protected from "legal claim and liability." dolan denies any wrong doing. the former president of yeshiva university in new york apologized this week and said he must repent for the way he handled allegations of sexual abuse at the orthodox university's high school. rabbi norman lamm is leaving his current position as university chancellor. while he was president, several men said they were abused by teachers and employees at the high school. lamm called his decision not to tell police "ill-conceived.

his mission to strengthen the catholic church in brazil. >> wendy: hundreds of thousands of catholicaithful welcomed pope francis to brazil this week. the pontiff came to rio for world youth day. it is his first international trip since becoming the first latin american pope. he hopes to revitalize the catholic church in brazil, are owing at very fastches pace. >> george: can a nation be saved in a day? thodseran missionaries joined with local believers to prove that true. they targeted honduras, one of the most violent nations in central america. their rallying cry: "one nation, one day." >> reporter: a record 2,000 short-term missionaries arrived in honduras for a gospel invasion unlike any seen before. it was the answer to the prayers of many local pastors. >> this country is suffering a lot. what if we do something powerful in the nation that attracts the evangelists, and that can reach all of those people. >> reporter: that powerful something became "one nation one day," a strategy to saturate honduras with the gospel. and young people shared their faith with local schools, and

it was already on the books in terms of the official doctrine of the catholic church that homosexual persons are to be treated with what the catechism, the official code of teaching, what it describes as respect, compassion and sensitivity. so the church's problem is with homosexual conduct not with homosexual persons. i think many gays and lesbians around the world are tell you that they're more accustomed to hearing from the catholic church what they perceive at least as judgment and a fairly negative judgment at that. to hear the pope of the catholic church openly saying when he meets a gay person he does not judge them, that is is at least in terms of the tonality and the symbolism, that is extraordinary. >> woodruff: so what about the tone? how much difference does it make that he's setting a different tone? >> we're going to have to see how this plays out, judy. all i can tell you is is that five months ago, those of us in the media business when we paid attention to the vatican, we were writing stories about the child sexual abuse scandals. they were writing about the vatican l

the pope is on his first trip abroad after coming -- becoming head of the roman catholic church. he says the church needs to get closer to the poor. a report from one congregation in sÃo paulo taken that message to the next level. singing songs of faith and hope, looking to rescue homeless drug addicts here in the roughest area of sÃo paulo. they are catholic missionaries and volunteers, a radical offshoot congregation of the sÃo paulo archdiocese. everyday they take to the streets offering a handshake, a hug, consoling words,, simply an opportunity to get off the streets. for people like everton and ques, as -- everton henri homeless crack addict. >> i do not wish this on anybody. this places a piece of hell. run by these congregation, those rescued are given a meal, shower, medical checkup and a place to sleep, but also spiritual guidance for strength. man,s all started by this who spent weeks at a time -- spends weeks at a time sleeping on the streets with the homeless. missionaries have made the sÃo paulo shantytown their home. on thethose living street, there is a lack of mot

of issues. the most controversial issue? homosexuality in the catholic church. tonight the leader of the catholic church says he is in no position to judge anyone. we have reaction to the pontiff's statements. >> reporter: a lot of folks feeling very surprised about the comments of pope francis, saying he's not one to judge people who are homosexual, saying there is room and they should be invited back into the church and that gay priests can be very good priests so long as they adhere to the celibacy that goes for heterosexual priests as well. all that not resonating for those who are gay and catholic. at our lady guadalupe church in san jose there are gay members who may feel a bit more welcome. on his way home from brazil, pope francis says there is no room for -- >> as long asman is trying to do god's will, as long as priests are trying to good god's will, observing celibacy, fine. >> reporter: they agreed that though pope francis preaches acceptance, the church still considers gay sex a sin. >> it's more of a shift in how we might reach out to people, how we

earlier police closed main roads as crowds of catholics thronged to the beach. this comes at the end of his closely watched visit to brazil. that is it from us here. you can leave with those pictures. set for the beginning of the year medicinal products can be sold on line and in july the health ministry extended it to 4,000 products. not without the risk to the consumer. we take a look. extraordinary people can buy from home and don't have to go to the chemist. there are no queues. they have a huge collection to choose from. they can get comfortable advice from a pharmacist who can answer questions they might have. online pharmacists are highly monitor monitored and ecommerces have to answer questions. before it is complete the pharmacist can decide to refuse the order. imagine you want to order medication you have to validate your company label and confirm you have read and understood and know what you are buying. you can ask the pharmacist questions by e-mail or chat. when you validate it give age, weight and if you are a woman state if you are pregnant if you

the thoughts of hope and light and love and faith and he specifically mentioned the chris the rst the redeemer statue, anw it is welcomed and embraced for the young people that are catholicn order to celebrate this world day festival. >> stay with uson "france 24> -- stay with us on "france 24." more news in 15 minutes. >> he's chosen his longtime pal as the star of his latest film. it is expected to be one of the hottest films of 2014. we have a peek behind the scenes on set. >> johnny halliday between scenes. >> claude has a few treats in store for the rockstar. >> you are the happiest man in the world. so you are like this. >> hidden away in the alps with a team full of history costars like a french singer and after eddy mitchell, a man he says who has been like a brother to him. he's written the story and the character especially for johnny. that of a retired war photographers struggling with a tense relationship with his children. the title or "beloved bastard." >> this is the story of a guy who had four children with four different women but who has never taken care of them because he did not have time because he was always off chasing wars. it is something that re

but members of the catholic hierarchy objected and catholic owners of faith-based nonprofits filed lawsuits saying that mandate violates their free exercise religious rights. the cha represents hospitals that treat one in six american patients. the latest administration compromise puts insurance providers, not catholic hospitals or faith-based nonprofits, in direct touch with employees to provide free birth control. it takes the protesting hospitals and nonprofits out of the loop and does not use any of their funds to provide the disputed coverage. while the cha says this compromise does not violate the hospitals' religious liberties, the us conference of bishops is still staunchly opposed. the bishops say the regulations prove the obama administration is hostile toward religious freedom. churches, synagogues and mosques are exempt. so, is this latest compromise still a violation of free exer sees rights under r under the constitution. >> absolutely not. this is a matter of separation of church and state. >> i do think it is coercive to have individuals and companies have to pay for somethi

marchers who hold parades every summer to show their loyalty to the united kingdom past a rival group of catholic nationalists who threw projectiles at the un reports from about just. a tinderbox of tensions once again ignited police on the front line feeling the heat the belfast most recent riots all the thousand police officers from across the u.k. drafted in to assist the police force and a surrounding the july twelfth grades spilling over into its second night rising to the scene of the disturbance once again just here in the loyalist. barely more than a stone's throw from the republican are doing district police to enforce the controversial ruling from the parades commission but the march could not pass the arduin shops on its return rate sparking the latest on rest but was the first light riots who waged by the way live and taking part in the great these riots is a younger and smaller number seems like these at the flare. up with the decision to restrict the flying of the union flag as winter but then protests occurred almost daily and the cost of policing these right is estimated to run in

marchers who hold parades every summer to show their loyalty to the united kingdom past a rival group of catholic nationalists who through a project i was about to have reports now from belfast. a tinderbox of tensions once again ignited police on the front line feeling the heat at belfast's most recent riots or the thousand police officers from across the u.k. drafted in to assist northern ireland's police force and a surrounding the july twelfth grades spilling over into a second night rising to the scene of the disturbance once again they kissed here in the loyalist. very more than a stone's throw from the republican are doing district police it in force the controversial ruling from the parades commission that the much could not pass the arduin shops on its return rate sparking the latest on the rest but was the first riots who waged by taking part in the parade these riots is a younger and smaller number seems like these the flare up with the decision to. but the union flag winter but then protests occurred almost daily and the cost of policing these roy is estimated to run into the tens of

a bus full of catholic pilgrimage crashes into a cars. the devastating development, next. >>> this hour president obama meeting with his former secretary of state, hillary clinton. >>> then they walk the streets at night selling their services. now a group of prostitutes in mexico want to share thinker stories and they're going to journalism school to do just that. welcome to "around the world." >> thanks for your company today. we're going to start this out with pope francis and what was a remarkable event on the plane. the pope basically an open book answering reporter questions about all sorts of controversial issues. >> homosexuality, abortion, women's role in the church. nothing was off limits. let's take a listen. >> translator: if a person is gay and accepts the lord and has good will, who am i to judge that? >> our senior vatican analyst was on that plane. lucky you, and joins us from rome. this was extraordinary. he touched on every hot button issue. was this jaw dropping even for an expert like you? >> reporter: i would tell you

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of the economy. the key word is engaged. this is a catholic church that wants to fight for and win back the poor periphery. >> we've seen protests there over the high cost of living among other things. can we say the pope's visit has had an impact in? the pope is using folksy language and tried to identify himself with peaceful protests abandon it would seem he's been very success. . however, the catholic church are masters of thinking long term and i think they'll probably decide that for all the crowds that have been drown out, it's still way too early to know if this visit will have real long-term ramifications. >> thanks very much. >> in rwanda, they banned plastic bags fibe years ago. a look at the law that's exceptionally difficult to joup -- uphold. >> don't miss "down to earth." >> and welcome to the sunday night sports roundup on france 24. over the next 10 minutes i'll be bringing you the best of the action from this weekend. some football with the women's euro final between germany and norway. also the various finals in tennis and w

but the percentage of people who identify themselves as catholic down. 65% in 2010. the pope's visit even more important in terms of that revitalization. >> reporter: yeah. there's a newspaper poll out saying that could be as low as 57% of brazilians are now catholic. the theme of this is go and make disciples of all nations. he wants to tap in to the youth vote and get them to come here. p heed the message and go back to their home countries and build the catholic church. >> we know that there's been quite the move to support same-sex marriage. do we think the pope will address some of the change in society and the culture and what is acceptable there? >> reporter: that is very doubtful. he will possibly get an eyeful. there's one protest scheduled for today that may be happening today. he gets into the airport and driving off to the government palace and among the way there's going to be kissing along same-sex couples and hoping the pope will address the issues. i doubt that issue or issues of women clergy will be addressed in this. >> do you think he

it has been in the history of the catholic church. ey also have been involved in laundering money for drugs. if you really face the facts of the roman catholic church, it is one of the creepiest societies and homosexuality has been existent since the beginning of this. >> bill: i don't know about -- exactly what point you're trying to make. i think you could take the ancient practices of the romans and greeks and tie that to today's catholic church, i don't know about that. but i understand it has been centuries long, the catholic church's condemnation of homosexuality. i think the condemnation is wrong. i think it will change. i think they'll take a long, long time to change. probably not in our lifetime but this pope, this pope, francis, has made more outreach than anybody -- any other pope. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinki

about reforms of the catholic church and the need of reform in the catholic church and i say that as once studied for the -- raised catholic and once studied for the catholic priesthood and we have with us in studio this hour, very excited to meet and to talk to father helmut schuler a priest from austria who is shaking up the catholic church with his calls for reform and he's on a tour of 15 cities in the towns bring that message here. father, good to see you. welcome. >> thank you very much. >> bill: the united states being good to you so far? >> yes. very warm, meetings are very touching with those engaged in reform of church in this country. >> bill: you're traveling coast-to-coast to 15 different cities. >> yes. it will be a good program i think. >> bill: now the pope's going to brazil so he's going to brazil and you're coming up here. going in different directions. >> in some sense yes. >> he's just avoiding you. [ laughter ] >> bill: we'll get to some of the things that you have recommended. i'm very excited about. first, we can't lose sight of american politics because we tal

but those of us to work on catholic campuses disagree. we already have been injured of the and just mandate because our constitutional right has been compromised the refusal to classify religious institutions as employers have compromised our religious right there is every indication this will escalate failing to account colleges as religious employers the state can target us as they have done with agencies to place children wes same-sex couples. of less colleges and universities are given an assurance their religious liberty will be protected the threats will continue rejecting claims of religious liberty it is likely the misguided attempt to protect women's rights and we can facilitate participation with a student internships at the clinic of abortion providers and colleges and universities can except the leaders in those who disavow the catholic faith. the analogous situations have arisen but if we protest on religious liberty crowns will be told again that we have no right to protest because we are not religious institutions but the cu

so was i. 16 years of catholic school has made me the man i am today. [laughter] >> and harvey influenced by jewish culture, you know, i don't think it's ever been explored enough. but if you talk to every brit, you know that harvey was a very, very much impacted by the holocaust. you know, if you remember, it happened in the '40s. it's only 20 years or so since he came onto the scene. and i think he was able to transfer, you know, that tragedy and that oppression into what was happening with gay people. he was very scrappy. i wanted to acknowledge two people who were very supportive of harvey milk and george moscone, and both of them have left us and that's howard wallace and hank wilson. (applause) >> what i loved about them was, what i loved about them was they knocked back a few and really get into it with harvey about different issues. but the comic was always there. and i think that's the beauty of san francisco. i think that we were able to take that sense of social justice and blend it. and that day, that brutal, brutal day, you know, i can't im

>> it sends a strong message from the head of the catholic church that gay people should not be marginalized, should not be discriminated against, should be -- he wants to be inclusive and welcoming to them. >> reporter: francis said no on women priests, explaining the church had spoken on that. as for his predecessor and neighbor at the vatican, pope benedict, francis likened him to a wise grandfather. he says he doesn't live in the papal apartments because they are just too big. he says he cannot live alone for psychological reasons. francis likes to have people around him. that's why he liked having less security around him so he can meet people. he knows there could be a crazy person in the crowd but says there's also the lord. asked what's in his black briefcase, the pope joked it's not the keys to the atomic bomb, just a razor and some books. the pope with a common touch, showing compassion today with his actions and words. anne thompson, nbc news, vatican city. >>> for the first time in three years, israelis and palestinians are sitting down together for peace talks tonight. they are

reporter: during his seven-day stay, the 76-year-old pontiff will meet with hundreds of thousands of catholics. on the flight from rome, pope francis told reporters that young people face more challenges after the financial crisis. that we are facing the risk of having a generation without jobs and personal dignity comes from work. the brazilian president granted the pope at the airport. on the way from the airport, the pope rode in a small fiat, the driver reportedly took a wrong turn and got stuck in traffic. security guards tried to hold back the crowd, but the pontiff left his window open, touching those who reached in, even holding a baby. in a move that might rattle his security detail, pope francis decided to ride in an open vehicle leaving behind his bulletproof vehicle. but security is tight here, brazilian police found a small homemade explosive at the sanctuary which pope francis will visit later this week. it's unclear if the device is related to the pontiff's visit. the faithful have come from around the world. these pilgrims are from miami, they say this experience is special, no