prompting chants of u.s.a., u.s.a., u.s.a. when another life was saved. the spirit that has sustained this nation for more than two sergeries lives on in -- more than two centuries lives on in you, its people. we have finished a difficult year. we have come through a difficult decade. but a new year has come. a new decade stretches before us. we don't quit. i don't quit. let's seize this moment to start anew to carry the dream forward and strengthen our union once more. thank you. god bless you. and god bless the united states of america. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> thank you. thank you very much. thank you. good evening. i am bob mcdonnell. eleven days ago i was sworn in as the 71st governor of virginia. i am standing in the historic house chamber of virginia's capitol, a building designed by virginia's second governor, thomas jefferson. it is not easy to follow the president of the united states. my young son gave me added pressure by giving 10 minutes bef

prompting chants of u.s.a., u.s.a., u.s.a. when another life was saved. the spirit that has sustained this nation for more than two sergeries lives on in -- more than two centuries lives on in you, its people. we have finished a difficult year. we have come through a difficult decade. but a new year has come. a new decade stretches before us. we don't quit. i don't quit. let's seize this moment to start anew to carry the dream forward and strengthen our union once more. thank you. god bless you. and god bless the unite >> you are looking at the scene inside of the house of representatives as barack obama concludes his state of the union address, the third time he has addressed the congress. the president will depart the house chamber and go back the white house. tomorrow the president will travel to florida where he and charlie crist will be in attendance to talk about high- speed rail. as always, we want to hear from you on the republican sponsors from bob mcdonnell. we will look ahead at the congressional agenda for 2010. a live view of the u.s. capitol

have you studied the poor of this rich country, u.s.a.? something about some of those finding. >> well, amnesty international, amnesty u.s.a., in fact, will publish a report in february, next year, which looks at the issue of maternal death in this country. and that report shows already our research is showing that report will make it very clear that women of color, phase three to four times the risk of dying. and the reason for that is often the lack of access to health care, no insurance, a lack of information, and the conditions in which they live the. so that's one area of poverty that we would surely want to highlight. i myself, since i have been promoting the book in the last two to three weeks where i have been in the cities, i was in a soup kitchen in richmond. i went to a birthing center in south bronx because i wanted to get a sense of what do people in this country feel about poverty. this is the richest country in the world. and i must say, and also to another center in boston, called rosie's place. rosy again. and in all those

place they have never been and pull people they have never known from the rubble, prompting chants of u.s.aained this nation for more than two centuries lives on in you, its people. we have finished a difficult year. we have come through a difficult decade. but a new year has come, a new decade stretches before us. we don't quit. i don't quit. let's seize this moment to start anew, to carry the dream forward, and to strengthen our union once more. thank you. god bless you, and god bless the united states of america. [cheers and applause] thank you. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [inaudible]Ñi [inaudible] >> virginia governor bob mcdonald gave the republican response to president obama's state of the union address. he spoke before an audience of 300 made of family members, legislators and staff from the governor's office, for about 15 minutes. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. [applause] thank you. good evening. i'm bob mcdonald. 11 days ago i was honored to be sworn in as the

prompting chants of u.s.a. u.s.a., u.s.a. when another life was saved. the spirit that has sustained this nation for more than two sergeries lives on in -- more than two centuries lives on in you, its people. we have finished a difficult year. we have come through a difficult decade. but a new year has come. a new decade stretches before us. we don't quit. i don't quit. let's seize this moment to start anew to carry the dream forward and strengthen our union once more. thank you. god bless you. and god bless the united states of america. thank you. >> we will get reaction from those blogin tonight and some of the stories as they have been posted. now the republican response. here is the virginia governor, bob macdonald. >> i am standing here in the virginia house. this building was designed by the thomas jefferson. i am joined by republicans to address the challenges. we were encouraged to hear president obama speak about the need to create jobs. all americans should be able to find and keep meaningful work. many of us here tonight and many of you watchi

it showed a bipartisan spirit, and we are all proud to be servants of the u.s.a. it should not matter that i happened to have been appointed the bench monday jimmy carter and president clinton, both democrats. i thought that was a very nice gesture on her part. >> who else on this table do you want to talk about? >> this is my granddaughter, one of three granddaughters. it was taken in the fall of 1992, when president clinton was running for office and his wife, hillary clinton, happened to be visiting the nursery school attended by might then 3-year- old granddaughter. they are doing the toothbrush song together, and this picture was featured in "the new york post." when i saw it, i got a copy and send it to my granddaughter. she is now 18. i wrote on the bottom, may you always know where to stand. >> who is this lady right here? >> that is my mother. perhaps the most intelligent person i ever knew, but sadly, she died when i was 17. >> i read that she died the day before you graduated from high school. >> right. >> what impact did that have on you in those days?

some of you who saw this morning's front page of u.s.a. today, they have their usual informative graph and there was a poll across industries and individuals who thought that they were most understaffed. an included government and there and there was educators who believe that the endeavor in which they were engaged. they were the most shorthanded of all and they might he and i here to argue that today. it is just that it has gotten a lot less shorthanded over time. now, in the paper i spend some time explaining why education has enjoyed this privileged position for so long. and there is a set of structural explanation and political explanation that one can read about. but the short-term answer here is that they are starting -- all of them are starting to evaporate. and likely we have this regrettable turnaround. we cannot expect this fiscal dividend in the future. so let me try to explain what's going to change this path. en route i will point out that education has held up very well relative to other sect errs on it comes to employment o

some of you who saw this morning's front page of "u.s.a. oday," they had their usual informative graph and there was a poll across industries of the individuals who thought that they were most understaffed. it included government, and private sector, and it was educators who believed that the endeavor in which they were engaged, they were the most shorthanded of all, and they might be, i'm not here to argue that today, it's just that it has gotten a lot less shorthanded over time. now, in the paper, i spend some time explaining why education has enjoyed this privileged position for so long. and there's a set of structural explanations and political explanations that one can read about, but the short term ar ist righting -- all of them are starting to evaporate, and likely will have this regre regrettable turnt this fiscal dividend in the future. so let me try to explain what's going to change this path. en route, i will point pout that education has held up very well rel tv to other sectors when it comes to employment over the last 5 who yea

the national council of churches, the marinol office of public concerns, the presbyterian church of u.s.a. washington office, the justice peace integrity creation office, the union for reformed -- the unitarian universal association of congregation, the united church of christ justice and witness minutist tries, the general board church of society and others. i ask unanimous consent to place that in the record. the presiding officer: without objection, it is so ordered. mrs. boxer: now we also have another letter opposing the efforts of the senator from alaska to overturn an endangerment finding and that letter is signed by so many members of the -- of our community. i'm going to name just a few and then i'm going to ask that this letter from e-2 be placed in the record. here's who signed this: the c.e.o. of luseka lighting, the president of cross river pictures, i.b.m. signed this letter, george bailey did for i.b.m. let's see what we have. physicist tony bernhart from the lawrence livermore national lab, professors of physics at m.i.t., aaron bernstein this. goes on and on. aim just pic

like i went, taking occasion spoke set up a meeting with the editorial board of u.s.a. today.ill go to that because i, you know, i know the legislation. i know the members. i can talk, i can speak to it, they will come with me and they will set up the whole shebang. is almost seamless when you are running well. if that answers your question or not. >> could you just talk a little bit about the interaction between the campaign manager and the supervisors that you had mentioned? >> actually, we haven't had a lot of interaction between them because there hasn't been a problem yet. but the campaign manager, you know, have to manage all the moving parts. and he made sure everybody does their meetings. he actually is on a lot of the team meetings, and he will do, you know, he has to do this for us. and he can kind of, because he's got everything in his head, he can kind of synthesize things and make some sense of things. and then help guide the teams do, you, let's focus on this today, that today. and a lot of what he does is taking all of our pages and coming up with a message, or

also in the news this morning the front page of "the u.s.a. day" -- pepper rodgers drop by about one-third. it is down from last year's number of your marks. this headline in the money section. automobile sales in 2009 with an uptick. the last call about tv access to health-care negotiations. james on the democrats won. caller: it looks like they're trying to limit the amount of money the gift on disability. what happens is they say there will not limit anybody unless they make to another $50,000 as a couple or have that as a single person. they seem to be ticking out an extra $100 there from people disabled from the check. they say it is because of the irs. even if they're making $90,000 on disability. i don't think it is fair. it is not obama doing it. it is the congress and senate. host: this conversation began this debate on c-span's facebook page. you can continue the conversation there. also, a new facebook page was created called "let the cameras in." things for your calls. we will now turn our attention to national security and talk wit

of our own. we too bad u.s.a. also have a number of national resource related toolkits that we call toolkits but also try to address similar kinds of issues. we have them on land, minerals, forest that deal on national resources similar topic on livelihoods and similar other as well that are available on the usaid.gov website. but this whole question about how we can all do development at little bit more sensitively is an important one and again i just want to thank, congratulates dozier taken on this very complex topic. and indeed in many ways there is really -- although we all almost taken for granted, there really is out there no more complex commodity or good out there than water because it exists in a variety of different forms. we care about it in a lot of different purposes. it's important for everyone and we depend upon it for survival. and for all those reasons it is in some ways almost unique. but in many other ways, it does in fact look a lot like other kinds of services are goods that are out there. and

[cheers] >> the next vice-president of the united states, governor sarah palin! >> according to a recent u.s.a. today gallup pole, hillary clinton and sarah palin just about tide as the most admired american woman, president obama most admired man. mark, biggest political story in the decade? >> biggest political story in the decade is the united states losing our optimism and our confidence. i mean, we went into this decade with the biggest surplus in the nation's history. we'll come out of it with the biggest deficit in the nation's history. we went into it upbeat, we go out of it bogged down in two wars and being urged into a third by some people. you know, it's been been a decade that can't be over quick enough. >> biggest political bonehead play of the decade? anybody have a nominee? >> yes, i do. and it's not a funny one. it's the invasion of iraq. that is a mistake that will haunt us for a long time. it cost us a lot of blood and treasury. and ends up with a country that we say is democratic and -- this is a country now where christians are being persecuted on christmas. >> can i disagr

but this was of course not a debate that was taking place in main street u.s.a., and it was not a lot of debate taking place in the press. the "new york times" followed, and this is not the talk of the hearst press and the others who were so far on the other side, that they were at going. the final thing, of course, with pm was much the fault as the rest of the american public was in its ruthless anti-japanese bias and the cartoons, even a dr. seuss are filled with caricatures of the japanese that are pictured as being readied to attack the u.s., ready to be a stiff column, people who should be put in concentration camps and so on and so forth. and as we know, by contrast the nazi -- the german silver shirts and others in yorkville were constantly being protected by the supreme court whenever the government tried to crack down on them, they had to prove there was anything to do all sorts of criminal things, which of course the government couldn't do. and of course none of these criteria were applied to the japanese who were simply moved into concentration camps. and that some of you m

when the cheering began it was like a shot of adrenaline. u.s.a., u.s.a. the large haitian crowd standing in the street yelled as los angeles county fire captain bill moynihan and his search dog rescue team finally freed a young woman trapped under her collapsed hotel for five days. bill said it brought his -- brought him to tears, said the executive director of the search dog foundation." we know there are stories of grief and loss to go alongside such stories of hope. we know that haiti's crisis goes far deeper than the earthquake, but we also know that when our words fail in the face of a tragedy of this scope, it is our responsibility and our honor and our moral duty to act. i urge the house to pass this resolution. i urge the obama administration to give its urgent attention to coordinating and overseeing america's part in the relief effort. and then, when some degree of civility and stability has returned to that country, let us not forget that the road ahead will be long and difficult, but it is a necessary one if the haitian people are to return to

u.s.a. today", accept 18, 2009 -- quote --"the incomes of the young and middle-aged, especially men, have fallen off a cliff since 2000 leesk more age -- leaving more age groups poorer than they were in the 1980's." we're seeing a collapse in the middle class, an increased gap between the rich and everybody else. and then, to make a very bad situation worse, as a result of the greed or irresponsibility, and illegal behavior of wall street, we're now in a terrible, terrible economic decline. mr. president, the american people voted overwhelmingly last year for a change in our national policies and for a new direction in the economy. after eight long years of trickle-down economics that benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class and working families, the people of our country demanded a change that would put the interest of ordinary people ahead of the greed of wall street and the wealthy few. what the american people did not bargain for was another four years for one of the key teark architects of the bush economy, federal chairman, ben bernanke. mr. president, the chairman of

u.s.a. five guards were accused of killing 14 civilians in baghdad in 2007. but last week, a federal judge in washington threw out the charges. today, maliki promised lawsuits in both american and iraqi courts. >> for our part, we have done what is necessary to protect our citizens and to punish those who committed the crime. we have formed committees and filed a lawsuit against the black water security firm. both in america and iraq. we won't abandon our right to punish this firm. >> sreenivasan: the blackwater guards claimed they were ambushed. prosecutors and many iraqis said the guards use of machine guns and grenades was unprovoked. the first business day of the new year saw a surge in stocks and the price of oil. wall street surged on encouraging news about manufacturing in the u.s. and china. the dow jones industrial average gained nearly 156 points to close just under 10,584. the nasdaq rose 39 points to close at 2308. and oil closed above $81 a barrel for the first time in nearly three months, as frigid weather gripped the eastern u.s. and drove up d

of this gear back in the states, you'd get sued. >> lake: definitely, definitely >> pelley: for all their success, here is another amazing fact-- they never had youth football until this year. the n.f.l. and u.s.aare helping to start the program. but all of the players that came before started playing in high school. at first, you think they do well, despite the adversity. >> lake: we don't need equipment to teach you guys how to start tackling properly. >> pelley: but then it strikes you: getting cut up on lava rock, playing in sneakers without equipment are keys to success. samoans are born big, but the island makes them tough. this is a place where kids use machetes to do their chores. come to think of it, it's a place where kids do chores. 17-year-old aiulua fanene does a day's work before school under the direction of his father, david. he's cooking in this house. he's cleaning in this house. that is something that kids back on the mainland would not believe if they didn't see it. >> david fanene: that's how he's been brought up. discipline, obedience should be involved in this house, and i am expecting my children to obey us. >> pelley: aiulua is 6',5", 280. arizona and oregon state are o

of supporters. today lincoln seems to be even more popular than he was immediately following his death. reflecting on that trend, u.s.a. has remarked abraham lincoln is hot. scholars say even he would be amused. from magazine covers to the front of teachers, from booksignings to meet cm opening, honest abe is center stage. lincoln is remembered as the leader who spoke the enduring word in gettysburg as students once memorized weird the story of which is so splendidly told i look or pour it in his gettysburg gospel. the commander-in-chief who reunited the nation by winning the civil war and the chief executive who was constantly ranked highest among all american presidents. thanks in part to historians and writers. lincoln's popularity has managed to transcend both time and place because blank and is many things to different people. we know him don't we as lincoln the loiter? link in the great emancipator. link in the great politician and president. lincoln the commander-in-chief. historians and lincoln scholars have not written not only about lincoln and his different roles, but also about lincoln's personal life, his

of. >> but was it not the u.k. and the u.s.a. gave sort of different emphasis to these rationales?> possibly. i mean, there was a sense, our only communication site, i had regular contact with my opposite numbers. so therefore, we were able to get a sense of where their public opinion was, our public opinion was. and they didn't feel the same sorts of pressures i don't think that we did. they sort of -- we were very, very keen, all the time, to emphasize the importance of the u.n. the american attitude was, you all know, somewhat lukewarm towards the united nations, to put it mildly. given they had a democrat president and then a republican president whose policy was regime change, a kind of the there's the policy, you know, do it. i'm talking about their assessment to me of their public opinion. so was the emphasis different? yes, it probably was. but what i would like to say to you is, the prime minister didn't ultimately fundamentally share the view that saddam hussein had to be confronted and forced to face up to his obligations. >> so what you're saying, there were a fundament

of illegal fujianese from the neighborhood. these were parents that didn't have legal status in the u.s.a. and needed someone to bring their children to china, she explained that i would do it for them, free of charge here this is one of the ironies, people go to great lengths to get out of china and come here. often illegal and then they would get here and have babies who were born in the estates of the u.s. citizens. the first thing that i don't want to do was send the babies back to china. people working so much around the clock and for so little faith they didn't necessarily have the funds to take care of the children. what they would do is send it back to china to be raised by the grandparents. it's weird you have this traffic going in one direction to the u.s. and it people get here and send their babies back in the other direction. sister ping was active in both of these lanes. sister ping ran the store and oversaw the books. she was the dominant partner with her husband always hovering in the background. almost as as soon as you ride and chinatown in 1981 she became a well-known, we

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to meeting the goal of doubling the amount of renewable power we use in the next three years with wind turbines and solar panels built right here in the u.s.aor middle class families, good for our security, it's good for our planet. over 180 projects in over 40 states will receive these tax credits. one of them is tpi composites, inc., based in newton, iowa, one of america's leading wind turbine manufacturers. because of these tax credits, tpi come positive at this time will not only be able to expand a facility, not only build a brands new facility in nebraska, they'll also be able to hire over 200 new workers. it's my hope that similar stories will be told in cities and towns across america because of this initiative. in fact, this initiative's been so popular that we have far more qualified applicants than we've been able to fund. we have received requests for roughly three times as much in funding, 7.6 billion dollars, as we could provide. so that's why as part of the jobs package on which i'm urging congress to act, i've called for investing another $5 billion in this program which could put even more americans to work right away build

my name is donna leinwand and president of the national press club and a reporter for u.s.a. today. where the world's leading professional organization for journalists and we are committed to a future of journalism by providing informative programming and journalism education and fostering a free press worldwide here it are more information about the national press club, please visit our website at www.press.org. on behalf of our 3500 members worldwide i'd like to welcome our speaker and our guests in the audience today. i'd also like to welcome those of you who are watching us on c-span. we're looking forward to today's speech and afterwards i'll ask as many questions from the audience as time permits. please hold your applause during the speech so that we have time for as many questions as possible. for those in our broadcast audience, i'd like to explain that if you hear applause and maybe from the guests and members of the general public to attend our luncheon and not necessarily from the working press. i'd now like to introduce our head table gasped and asked them to stand brief

presumably the driver of this rig, a tractor trailer rig, stuck in a pretty nasty situation in haw thorn, california. we'll update you as the rescue continues. jane: the old saying, made in the u.s.a., does it mean anything after all? some america companies are bucking the trend, instead of moving companies to say mexico, they're keeping them on american soil and betting on workers to make it a better product. we go to steve in mexico city. >> jane, with all the manufacturing jobs moving from the united states to mexico, it wasn't easy to find a group of people finding to do something different, making a bowling ball into theo in the united states. >> made in mexico t. used to be made in the u.s.a. brunswick bowling said the only way to compete was to move to mexico. leaving empty the plant they had been making bowling balls in since 1906. a few in michigan decided to buck the trend. scott wilbur made cores for the balls. when they left for brunswick, he stayed behind and bet his life's savings he could build a better bowling ball in the united states. >> i don't believe their response to competition is to move offshore and put people out of work here in america. i think the right

i believe, and i know all of you believe that our constitution and laws exist to protect this nation. [cheers and applause] [chanting" u.s.a make it very, very, very clear. they do not grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. [cheers and applause] and the message we need to send in dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars, our tax dollars, should pay for weapons to stop them and not lawyers to defend them! [cheers and applause] i don't know about you guys, but i can't believe i'm on this stage with doug flutie, first of all. and two of the best guys i know, fred and steve's steakhouse, fred, steve, lenny clark. i'm telling you. i just know it's just so wonderful to be not only on this stage here with all of you folks out here, and i want to make a special thanks to my mom and dad for putting up with me. mom, dad. [applause] thank you very much for respecting them. i know i'm a little offscript. let me get back on, talking about raising taxes, taking over our health care and giving new rights to terrorists, giving new rights to terrorists is the wrong agenda for our country. when i've heard again and again on the

we find ourselves in the position of the american empire, which we refer to as the u.s.a., as probablythe largest and wealthiest and most powerful and most materialistic, most races, violent of empire of all times. people are fed up and they are saying enough is enough. that is what it is all about. we have been in business seven years suddenly, in the last three months, these candidates stepped forward. we were willing to go for it. some of the candidates are quite serious. host: as far as vermont is concerned, what would be the benefit of the state or seceding from the union? guest: the benefit would be enough to have your tax dollars from vermont be over $1 billion per year go to support these illegal wars that we support in iraq and afghanistan, palestine through the state of israel. dollar we pay to the feds, we only get back 75 cents. most importantly, control of our own destiny and not being in bed with morley -- with a morally corrupt empire. host: can you sustain yourself if you break away from the united states? guest: slowly, we only have 625,000 people and how could we sur

u.s.a., find out his connection to 9/11, the accused ft. hood shooter and other terror suspects. >>> also tonight our cnn special investigation, a chain of yoga and wellness centers, two dozen former employees say it's a cult, they were abused. >> people were screaming, throwing up. people were running away. >> reporter: don's lawyers say it is not a cult and no one was abused, who's telling the truth. >>> this is your only source for news, cnn prime time begins now. here's campbell brown. >> we're going to start tonight, as always with the matchup. the week's top story, a scathing white house report on the christmas day bomb plot. president obama outlined how his administration dropped the ball and the commander in chief made one thing crystal clear, he fully understands we're fighting a war on terror. >> for ulgt mtimately, the buck stops with me. >> president obama took full responsibility for mistakes that failed that stop the christmas day bombing plot. >> the u.s. government had sufficient information to disrupt the al qaeda plot. the intelligence community leadership did not increase analytic resources working on the full threat. the w

cash registers and stocking the store here, they are going to be out of a job and it's going to be one more store on main street, u.s.a., that's going to be vacant. and we can't have that happen. and i think that what we need to do in this body is really go out and talk to these individuals. i've advocated. instead of trying to do a few hearings down here, and i don't think we've had enough hearings on health care, i think we should have taken this debate across america. and have the american people have their say on what's going on. two, members of this body would be able to hear it directly from the american people. i know when i served in the ohio legislature for 11 years, you know, when you're representing the state of ohio it's not that large of state. many times we have all of our hearings in columbus. many times we'd take our hearings out what we call the four quadrants of the state so people can actually come nearby where they live, they didn't have to drive down to the state capital. i think that's what we should have done in this whole debate in health care. let's bring these hearings to the american people,

one is the use of technology on behalf of diplomacy and development, a subject i discussed last week in a speech at the museum. a civilian experts and state in u.s.are supporting the afghan and iraqi people as they build democratic institutions, functioning economies, combat a violent extremism and strengthen civil society. and we are working to promote the fact that, democratic, transparent governance in both these nations. we're also redoubling our efforts to deal with the long-term issues like poverty and hunger, climate change, nonproliferation and others. and the department has played a central role in advancing president obama's vision of a world someday without nuclear weapons. we put forward a new development agenda the 21st century. we are pursuing a policy based on partnership, not patronage. that means working directly with developing countries to help them identify their own obstacles to growth, crafting solutions to overcome those obstacles and implementing programs that could be held accountable for results. in close partnership with usaid, were supporting investments to make agriculture more project is. we're helping farmers produce

but they are u.s.a., sci-fi, bravo, and msnbc and cnbc and oxygen. all of that is the kind of businesses you are talking about with two sources of revenue and very, very, very healthy, no question. that's where you go back to your very first day but of whether there's a zero valuation for all of us who grew up in a different time period, looking around the room, i think that's a fair statement. in b.c., we are at zero? pics xyz channel. i will pick anybody so i don't think anybody is worth billion dollars, $2 billion. something, so there is -- are going to be changes necessary that have to happen to try to keep it a vibrant part, still most of the television audience is watching, you know, in terms of one show at a time is very popular broadcast television. you know, i think it's an opportunity for us, but i don't want people to lose perspective that this company has transformed himself to be a lot more than just that one. >> is there any good reason not to turn in b.c. into a cable channel? >> we have said since day one we will not do that. i think there i

of any real good technology right now that prevents us from having to do that. at the opposite extreme, this gets back to what my glued to her, there was the u.s.a. today story a couple years again that they're trying to get a record, not just telephone calls, between someone abroad and some here in the united states, one of the war both of them might be connected to terrorism, but further in sa was time to get a record every single call in the united states. that is obviously counterproductive. that puts more hay on the stack when what we need as you said, is to have less say on the staff to find the needle within. we need to strike the right balance is seems to me. we can do that but we can have perfectly good and we can have perfect liberty in the age of terror. >> does an extremely important point that clark is made. at how much security, as you phrase, clark, how much is our security improved at the price of come in what you elaborate on the price of personal liberties. we can expand that way of thinking about any kind of counterterrorist measure, and say how much security do we want at the price, it might be privacy, it might be personal lib

of those things will be on the agenda. >> things were there. so -- but, and was it not the u.k. and the u.s.a. that gave to different entities, to these rationales? >> possibly. i mean the -- the, there was a sense that -- that -- on the communications side, i had very, regular contact -- with my office numbers so therefore we were able to get, get a sense of where their public opinion was and our public opinion was. and they didn't feel the same source of pressure that we did. their public opinion was we were keen all the time to emphasize the importance of the u.n. and the american attitude as you all know is somewhat lukewarm to the united nations. to put it mildly. u.n was the emphasis different. but the prime minister didn't share the idea that saddam hussein had to be confronted. >> what did you think, there was a fundamental agreement on -- on , that saddam hussein had to be dealt with. that was fine but there were differences. they were say regime change. >> i have given you that. regime change and -- and the united nations. >> did you and your colleagues explore with the american coun

of those things were on the agenda. >> those things were there. so, but was it not the uk and the u.s.a.s her a different emphasis to these rationales? >> possibly. there was a sense that on the communications side i had regular contact with my opposite numbers. and so therefore, we were able to get a sense of where their public opinion was in our public opinion was. and they didn't feel the same sort of pressure as i don't think that we did. we were very, very keen all the time to emphasize the importance of the u.n. the american attitude as if all know is somewhat lukewarm towards the united nations, to put it mildly. and likewise, in relation to give them that they have a democratic republic in any republican president they kind of thought that was the policy and were going to undo it. i'm talking about their assessment of me of their public opinion. and so was the embassy difference? guest, it probably was. but i would like to say to you is that the prime minister didn't ultimately, fundamentally shared the view that saddam hussein had to be confronted and forced to face up to his ob