if they do, major ofek will be near the front. >> translator: we expect to go to war. we expect to destroy the terrorist organization hamas, kill its governments, and kill every last terrorist. that's what we plan to do, and that's how it will be. >> reporter: the last time the idf went into gaza targeting hamas' leaders was 2014. ariel bernstein was 21, in the special forces, one of the first to cross the border. >> you're just afraid that there is something waiting for you at every corner. >> reporter: but his experiences then have left him questioning the tactics today. back then he says the idf warned civilians to leave, and hamas told them to stay, just as is happening now. but some had stayed. his orders he said, assume the civilians had left. >> whoever you see is basically engaged in fighting or is involved in fighting. and therefore we call it engaging with fire with any home you enter, with any kind of shape of a person that you see from afar. >> reporter: in many ways, israel's actions are playing out, just as they have in the past. 2021 gun positions freshl

seyed hadi, seyed ofeke, an expert on palestinian issues , is also added to our group. i greet you.good time. the studio pointed to that and the obvious link between increase and expansion the aggression and of course the conflicts and the issue of the expansionism of the zionist regime in palestine. with the issue of insults to the holy area of ​​islamism and islam and the quran in the west, let's talk about the double responsibilities of the islamic countries, and these countries should basically deal with two separate issues . deal with common values ​​and those issues that are considered separately and in different subjects ? yes, in the name of allah , the most merciful , the most merciful, at your service, dear guests and viewers, greetings and respect. kurd between these two issues: one is the issue of insulting his sanctities, the other is putting pressure on the palestinian people, especially the palestinian resistance and fighters, on the one hand. on the other hand, it is the issue of rulers and nations , it is the duty of nations to show that after the establishment of r

seyed ofeke, one point can be concluded that with the cessation of the line of compromise and the issue of normalizing relations between islamic countries , the issue of the unity of the islamic world is again in fact, the past will return to strength and boldness. well, this requires a process, that is, first of all, some of the rulers who think that they are really miscalculating , think that by normalizing their thrones, their security , their status, and the stability of their governments will actually be secured. it is possible that they should have a separate opinion on this issue first madam, if this happens, it means that they will give up and really come to the conclusion that no, this is not the case, and normalization with the 39th regime is not good for us, nor a blessing, nor security . this is the introduction and the first stage of the second stage process. the trend is to express and really match the demands of their nations, their beliefs, the values ​​of their nations, the jihadist history of the nations that really gave blood, now whether the people inside palestine o

ofeke , what are you saying directly, about positions or statements that having mrs.adi and you who are in charge. every year we bring up these debates because i have been active in this field for many years, the academic debate of elites, elites, i remember this 15 years ago, the elite had an idea like this, but he said that no one would take us over, sir, i made this up , someone took us seriously. it has not been delivered . look , there have been supportive policies. no one denies it in different governments, but when it comes to action, ask them to support this elite. we didn't want to, we did this for ourselves, what do you do now, considering this experience , according to what mrs. ahmadi has said about these problems, i am not saying that 0 to 100 will be solved , it will be reduced, it will reach a certain point, and then come with enthusiasm and tell me, sir. i have this idea. yes, mr. baaima, in the national elite foundation, what we are obliged to do according to the foundation's statutes and the foundation's strategic document approved by the supreme cou

. >> major ofek says day don't hurt innocents, only terrorists, but admits if he is sent into gaza, avoiding civilian deaths won't be easy. >> is it possible to fight hamas without civilians getting injured? >> translator: we're concerned with overthrowing the hamas regime and killing the terrorists who are currently in gaza. fit will be difficult, it will be difficult. not easy. >> reporter: outside the camp gates, as israel's military ponder their next move, troops are saying their fond farewells. >> and i think all those troops we see today, they feel they have a mission to do. they feel that they need to go in there after hamas, but for many of them, they know that this could be a life-changing appearence. they'll experience things, they'll see things they'll never was certainly the experience of the former idf soldier that we interviewed. he said he came away with memories that he cannot erase from his mind and also lost friends along the way. >> yes, nick, so much loss, and so many of them, when they go in those kibbutz, as they've been saying, it sears the eyes. thank you very much, n