. >> anytime you make a point to somebody who doesn't agree with you on the left it's call offensi offensive. >> to be clear for everybody listening, we're talking about the national security exit entry registration system. your point is what? >> my point, first of all when carl said you wonder who side president obama is on, is what's offensive. i don't take offense to everything he said, just to that. and the fact of the matter is -- >> how do you explain the timing of this? why would the president do this now with just a few days left to go in office? why would this be a goal? why would it be anything other than symbolic? >> i don't know. look. there's a bunch of things that president dos when new parties are come in to replace them to kind of cement their legacy. i really have no idea why he's doing it at this point. but as carl himself pointed out, it hasn't been used in seven years. >> but by doing this it slows president-elect trump's ability to revive it or whatever his plans are for it. carl higbee, last word to you. >> president obama is putting these refugee programs above the ame