we have slightly number of priority eight calls per officers >> i would like to defer to the police officer on this here it's telling us the number of sworn officers we have smaller number of a and b calls as a city we have fewer a and b calls >> that's how i would interpret it. >> i have a quick question for you what stood out to me is the significant amount of moneys in police hours in special events do you have any idea what proportion are reimbursed for events and what amount we're allowed to cover? >> one second. so san francisco does have a program in place where we contract with other agencies to provide police services that are directly reimbursed the police department has to cover a lot of events that do not fall under that program i think the police department can can speak to this program i don't have the numbers with me what the law enforcement services budget is. for this analysis the police department did come up with an estimate we're trying to understand what might be those costs for the events that are no reimbursed for fiscal year 2013-14 it was estimated again this would

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to one officer san francisco 438 to 1 officer los angeles 394 residents to one officer again none of these stattistics necessarily say this there say link or not i think it's important we look at what other cities are looking at about what their statistics are saying i know it's apples to oranges because we're different in landscape when we have this dialogue about police officers we have to recognize our budget is always choices what it means to make the city safer increasing police officer comes at a price tag of 175000. i want to be careful when i say this it's not that police officers don't address issues at the time on the street what we do know is keeping kids in school does prevent crime the less youth that drop out of our public school system prevents crime in san francisco when we have adults that are housed versus homeless on the treat that prevents crime when we have this discussion of what it means to make our city safer and stronger we have to have discussion. because i want to see the police fore let's have that conversation in conjunction what it means to invest in our

used the computer to - the officer was retrained and an officer's networking neglect of the duty failed to document he didn't find cause to facilitate a conduct the officer was retrained the officer was reminding an individual he was having a dispute i'm a cop and the officer received a written reprimand was retrained a neglected duty handcuffing and the officer failing to collect traffic stop data and moving moving to the generation the chief suhr proposed split up in 5 cases and determined to have sustainable allegations the first neglect of duty involving an officer failing to give a certificate of release although it says certificate of relief but the officer was admonished and retrained and another traffic officer failed to collect the traffic stop data the officer was retrapped and other one an officer fail to get traffic data was reprimand and retrained and in a conduct reflecting misconduct the officer violated the policy officers did when they failed to document in the incident report juvenile the officers were retrained that concludes the may and april reports. >> thank you di

there was no malice from the officers. >> officer two?ficers knew that they were being videotaped. that's the biggest thing. you can't tell me -- >> by a cell phone? >> of course. >> and even not being videotaped you have six officers that are involved in this. the two officers that were placing him inside the wagon, and a normal person, you would think -- there's nobody especially a law enforcement officer, that you're going to jeopardize your life your career your families your friends and everybody else to -- to -- for what to you know to throw an extra punch or throw an extra kick? there's no physical violence that was involved in this. he was non-complaint. >> there was no physical violence? when you look at the video and you see the takedown is that all -- >> it was a takedown and like i said before force has to be met with equal force, you know. if per se you start, you know throwing punches at me i will defend myself. it's not my duty or my job to retreat and let you be in control of the situation and let it escalate. we're there

one point say please we don't see enough police officers we need more beat officers we need more officers yet at the same time, we have some supervisors that continue to argue that we don't need more officers that is one of quote/unquote the police officers don't prevent crime as the baffling is important to look at the big picture where we are as a city and the needs and make sure that we take a a long time strategy view keeping in mind we should always be looking for the tints whether working with the sheriff's department or civilian in his that will never get up to heed of officers we need to fill this hole. >> i appreciate our comments and you'll get to keep our lunch pretty sure everyone agrees with you. >> you you know you can't have their cake and eat it, too and can't say i want more police officers in pie district and calling the captain saying please get beat officers and get more beat officers and come into this building and say police officers don't prevent crime we don't need more police officers. >> i will agree the shipyard we do alice griffith as mission bay continues to g

force where we sustained one officer in one case and another 3 officers in one case moving toward the sustained allegations by type 50 percent of the allegations from neglect of duty and urban water action and discredited 9 percent unnecessary force 9 percent and one percent there were exclaims of the cases were racial bias and two were gender bias and 3 were racial and gender bias no sustained finding of bias this is a nationwide y where it is difficult to approve or disapprove bias one of the things that we do focus on if there are aren't other things to preclude a case from mediation tried try to mediate cases where there are claims of bias and the program is voluntary this takes the agreement of the complainant and the officer the officer needs to be eligible occ legal unit a comprised of 3 .75 full-time equivalent positions and the other two its third reading sam who is the policy analyst and dennis salazar who is the mediation and outreach two trial attorneys provide the 12u7b89 reviews and they prosecuted 9 officers and the commission case and the in 2014 we had fairly sustaine

i might have more officers assigned to a specific station that i may lose some of my officers. it's out of my control as far as the police department. it's something they have a right to do as far as transfers. our goal is to look for the new officers that are going to be at that particular station for a while. we say let's get you to the training. i know he or she will stay there for 3- 4 years. that will keep that spot safe. >> another quick question, i'm sorry. on this pie chart that gives percentages of officers who are cit trained. it's hard to read the shades of gray. which neighborhoods were the 20% and 10%. which were the highest percentages? >> 20 percent is nordic station. >> it looks like ingleside. >> council member kostanian? >> i have a couple of questions. in terms of community input, i'm concerned about the community who have issues and speaking english. family members, schools, the elderly and the legal community. i think all those should be involved in seeing what transpires and the feedback and the balance exchange. i think there is a lot of people who tend t

you see three officers approach him and then two more officers approach him. you see those officers all retreat at one point and then you see the moment at which those shots are fired and rahim falls to the ground. what we understand from the police officers who have been here to talk to us today the that the first three people to approach were two fbi officers and a boston police officer. they shout "knife" and that's when you see two other fbi agents running out there surrounding rahim and pulling back before firing the shots. ashleigh, you will also see a school bus that drives through the frame at one point after the shooting. that's something that was talked about in this office. obviously officers and investigators saying that this was not the ideal situation, nobody wants to confront a terror suspect in a busy parking lot on a busy street 7:00 in the morning but they received information that morning that rahim was planning an attack. they say this was the first opportunity to confront him. one of the officers has reported to investigators that he saw a

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it's still your word against the officer. the officer's word is always going to win. uniformed officer against an accused criminal. dmou there's a video. if you did something illegal instead of just the officer's word, now they have video to back it up. how much of a difference is that? versus, now if the officer is lying, you have some protection. >> i think there's some question -- at street wise and safe we focus and work with youth of color who are obviously some of the populations who are -- the population most targeted by discriminatory policing practices body cameras are intended to protect. we physically work with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth of color who have experienced homelessness. they're a population at the intersection of a lot of different kinds of discrimination including discriminatory policing. we've had a lot of conversations about body cameras and this question of will it actually prevent police misconduct prevent the kind of policing practices they experience on a day-to-day basis. for them and for many people who are in the large

i think people were protesting outside your office. what did you mean by that. >> listen, i stand by my statement. here in dade county, we had a mayor trying to use the cameras as a political tool to get reelected. when we spoke, i brought pizza and waters to the protesters, and one of the protesters, i asked "how many are you paid to be here?" he couldn't say. i said '10", he said i wouldn't do it that cheap. they are paid to go tout and fight these things, it came from an operative of the mayor. i never got in trouble. they ate our pizza, drank our water. i'm a bigger friend to the african-american community than our mayor is. >> do you think the body camera issue, the idea of wearing the cameras comes down to an african-american police issue? >> no, i think it's a component of it. i don't think about it in a national sense. here it is exploited if you will, for political reasons. at the end of the day, they have a good component. a bad component. we are only talking about the good. i'm asking let's talk about the bad. let's talk abo

officer was astonished and retrained and the neglect of duty allegation the officer failed to collect the traffic data and the officer was astonished and retrained that concludes my report. >> any questions. >> commissioner. >> so you asked a while ago about the early intervention system this in the three but i'm wording i assume you keep track of that director hicks. >> officers their astonished and retrained what happens when they do more than once several times how does it fit if. >> one toshlt each year a written reprimand and time off after that. >> and then the disciplinary. >> process. >> right but there's no problem going straight to a written reprimand if it is needed but as a failure to enter a code if you've done that one time your astonished and retrained and if it occurs again, it is a republic manned failure to go to travel court procedural things are represent mappeds but there's a poor interaction with a he citizen failure to do a written report everybody gets a report failure to make a report is a republicrimandeprimand. >> failure to appear you don't get a failure to

>> first of all i'm happy to meet with you in my office. (speaking off the mic) >> in order for us to move together as a community we have to show respect even when we disagree. i'm here now. i'm -- listen to me -- i'm here to extend an invitation who would like to meet with me their public comment i'm happy to extend that to everyone. it's not a problem. i'm talking to everyone not just one specific person first of all i'm happy to entertain any proposal and suggest from this body to further discussion on public safety this is not as flat and one dimensional about police ones i have championed in years pasti want i to recognize the fatherhood program bringing young men we have a program called my brother's keeper champion increasing funding ucsf that specifically targets family effected by gun items you heard about the success of gun bye back programs i agree we need to have additional resources for homeless outreach not only for quality public education but also workforce housing and workforce development we continue to develop not just i

so, with that said, i think the mayor's office, their staff, the controller's office, mr. harvey was, you and your staff. supervisor farrell you and your staff have just been incredible resources and of course i want to give us but special shout out to my own stuff. thank you. >> thank you supervisor cohen. supervisor avalos. >> thanks for all your work and leadership on this budget. this was your third time around and i think it was silly different. i think you did put us through paces that i think you pursue peace with something that actually resulted in a lot of good work and i think we also, despite the short amount of time, where the quickness we went through this, we actually were able to see a lot of moving parts of this budget and understood what the trade-offs were and those were clear. in your work as chairman, i really appreciate that. my work on this budget was trying to make sure that we're all talking, moving forward, not to the budget committee but really was looking at how can maximize funding for affordable housing. and we have a housing bond weight on tod

limitations backlog of seven hundred cases plus we've been working with off a budget from the mayor's office was informed yesterday by captain who's been steadfast in following through to clear the backlog he actually had staff do a hand count it was 4 hundred and 37 cases he has informed me he can speak for that group screened what needs to be tested that backlog will be cleared at the end e by the end of the year paid for by the existing money from the mayor's office from last year additionally with regard to one of the speakers spoen spoke about firearm bayview and northern station worked out tonight it was named the letterman one of the suspects we're and letterman jacket the follow-up one the spreadsheets austin we executed a search warrant in san mateo with the northern county swat and found mr. chin a firearm hand what was used in the robberies but in addition a virtual or natural of firearms explosive materials and explosive devices the handguns 2022 as a result hand and shot guns and there was paperwork in the resident that indicated those items were for sale and to be in the street

supervisors i'm karen the new chief prosecution officer with me diane our department fiscal officer theission of the adult probation department to protect the community and change lives we've accomplished that through the evidence best practices having a victim's center approach and working collaboratively with our community and based on organizations those collaborations allows us to blend in with justice and treatment the app new judgements are clients services i am reintroducing to establish sober or else housing opportunities for the clients and other services gender reprehensive of responsive services requesting one position as it relate to the housing opportunity for women and their children who are involved in the critical justice system as well as providing services specific a gender and transgender a restoration to allow the amazes test of sentencing and follow-up on the odor and enforce those orders were not to probation we're asking positions to be able to support the adult probation department to really allow our probation officers to delve the time necessary to serve the vi

at the gates mental illness multiple officers and urban laugh detention of and a complaint from sexual assault with the processing of evidence at a crime lab and in 2014 there was racism text messages when receiving the evidence as this evidence was being reviewed we forwarded two the police department to executive officer in 2015 to who conducted an immediate and thorough investigation let's talk about the demographics complainants by race and ethnics 27 percent of the complainants were caucasian and african-american and 26 percent latino and hispanics 11 asian-american and 6 percent - 26 percent declined to state case in taxes that we conducted were mainly in english overwhelmingly in english 96 percent 4 percent spanish less than one percent were complains russian and korean our investigators on staff speak spanish tagalog and french and dialectical that's closely recommended to complains when oh, we have not investigator staff that speaks mandarin and chinese when we're flurg unable to converse with a complainant we use language line for translations purposes. >> additionally in ou

they shield the officers, and the net officer lives to offend again. and that is what happened here. this is not the first time that this officer has pulled his weapon out and used it as a bullying tool, as an intimidation tool to compel these children to come here, to sit down to don't move to shut up. a weapon is drawn in immediate defense of your life or the life of another. and none of that was going on when he pulled his weapon out of his holster. amy: you said he should be fired. should he also be charged? think about it. a man with a gun is pushing a young woman to the ground, jumping on top of her as she screams, telling her to put her face in the ground. i mean, isn't this outright assault? >> it seems very criminal to me. because citizen was acting the same manner, they would be charged with a litany of criminal violations. assault, assault with a deadly weapon which is a felony, brandishing a firearm. i mean, there's a plethora of things he could be charged with criminally and then let's not forget that there were other police officers there

rose's office looks at the citywide what is unique about the public defender's office we hire attorneys at will we don't go through the sifrs service we'll go on through the process of vetting applicant and interviewing the applicant and in our final stages not a delay of months as the budget analyst presumes budget analyst recommends claiming of the hither of the laura's law attorney until january 1st, 2016, all of the city departments i'm sure you're aware of supervisor farrell with working together to implement laura's law by november 1st and for that reason we need to hire the laura's attorney by october 1st, we don't anticipate any delay attorneys are hired at will we'll hire that person on october 1st it is something i this of a concern to all the department budget analyst also recommended delaying a it that this position is needed immediately a huge responsibility for our department pulling all the video and the body cameras that are expected and huge new responsibility in arithmetic to our workload we have one case we were able to pull video that showed a young eternal was innoc

that the post office was going to get away with the closing the saved it post office and doing it again, this is because it is important to have a post office in the tenderloin that movement was the closet the possessive could get to the old main office at 7 and mission and fox plaza is a long way for people that are handicapped and to make that trip violates the understanding so have full service post office both places, however, that can be worked out thank you. >> thank you nick (calling names). >> gang commissioners i request a continuance on this matter because box holders have not received any, no, sir, of closer or replacement of their post office boxes i've been a box holder over 15 years this continuance should be until the planner abstained to this has been notified by the united states people of the state of california of the guaranteed replacement for those post office boxes and all box holders should be notified of the replacement of their post office boxes the documents on the screen now is the original preliminary mitigated negative declaration it was defective i filed a

to speak on their point of view they'll not be police officers thank you mr. washington arrest i attended lois lane university i'm working with jerry i have a group of 20 a group of 20 students around the neighborhood our focus is really to work with the school system and sfpd to create more of a i guess connection between the police officers that patrol the middle school and really find a way to find more of a relativeable way as of right now for high schoolers they think that police officers only do they see on tv arresting people more than that there's a lot more behind the scenes in the police cars and going around the neighborhoods but so we really want to create a connection between the students and the police officers at the school so they can relate to each other and yeah, so we can't have those problems and be able to find a way for minority to be in the san francisco police department and we're working on a project to work with the city college of san francisco and find a way to take courses in high school they'll have a step up instead of in their a

when you valimited number of police officers qu move officers from one area to another that original area is going to have less police staffing. the answer is to have adequate police staffing. we are not even close to being there and we should be looking at the numbers and we have looked at the numbers and we need to increase our police staffing goals. i want to respond-i appreciate supervisor kim's analysis about the fact that with the smaller police force we have less violent crime t. is true violent crime is down and that is because the police department understand preventing violent crime is job number 1 for the department so we see increase focus on violent crime and they have done well but it is that expense of property crime and traffic enforcement, it is at the expense of officers walking beats in neighborhoods. there is a price to pay for the great work that they have done with inadequate staffing to reduce violent crime. so, colleagues we absolutely need and thank you sfr visor kim for acknowledging that we support increase invesment and housing and education and health and

i was the first responding officer. conroe a officer isn't dispatched primary to the call. i was the closest when i went out so i knew there were two units responding. >> he's got a gun. >> when i pulled in i wasn't quite prepared for what i saw when i got there. he was out of the door of the bakery and hitting it with the butt of the gun and wanting in. as soon as he saw me, his attention was drawn. he walked across the front door, walked across the front of the building and put his focus on me. then and there i knew i was in the wrong place. he's got the gun aimed at me. >> the man with the shotgun is james richard hill. he's in the thick of a heated dispute with his girlfriend who works at the bakery. >> we've got people in the store. tell them to get away from the windows. >> even before officer ashley brockett arrives on the scene, he knows the situation is dire. >> the fact that he got on the radio and told dispatch to have the people inside the store move away from the windows, that told me that he was trying to

the officers not convicted about that? the world gonna know about it. >> for more "faultlines" check out on demand or visit aljazeera.com/faultlines. >> farm workers striking in mexico... >> all that tension is about what's happening right now. >> unlivable wages... >> you can work very hard and you will remain poor. >> what's the cost of harvesting america's food? >> do you see how it will be hard to get by on their salary? >> yeah >> fault lines al jazeera america's hard hitting... >> today they will be arrested... >> ground breaking... they're firing canisters of gas at us... emmy award winning investigative series... fault lines invisible hands only on al jazeera america her. >> i wanted to be seen and have people hear me. it wasn't easy, it motivated me to keep pushing. >> sara hoy with the man known as freeway, a hip-hop artist dedicated to act vis. and spreading an inspirational message. also tonight - from the grass rots. correspondent lisa fletcher vets what is behind a citizens campaign that lit up marijuana acti

the same officers, two blocks, walking distance. >> those officers, nicholas chapman and another traffic stop at this intersection two weeks later. this time they pulled over tawanda jones' brother, tyrone west. as the officers searched west, they claim he resisted -- and a fight broke out. >> kelway and kitmore >> officer chapman called for backup. >> unit on kelway and kitmore is everything ok? >> 13, 13, 13... signal 13 >> neighbors said it was about 25 people on top of my brother, they never seen anyone get beat like that, never. you're talking about armed men and women with batons, with weapons, steel-toed boots. armed. he wasn't armed, he's got on shorts and a tank top, his skin is revealed, its summer. who gonna fight with 20 people for what? >> shawanda lewis was just arriving home when she says she heard people yelling. >> i seen everything that happened from the beginning to the end. everything. they went from the car to the corner, from the corner to this side of the street. he asked for help a million times. >> lewis told investigators she saw west get maced, then try to run

createan officer of tension for your police officers? >> listen, it is what it is. but i think what we have to do is really take a look at the entire picture. what is it the police officers are facing on a daily basis, disproportion at amount of stops in some communities, there's a disro portiodisproportionate ame occurring in certain communities. whereas people get upset and angry about a police shooting, i've had 105 homicides as of today in philadelphia. 82% committed with firearms, and more than 80% african american. so where's the outrage around that as well? if we're serious about dealing with the issue of crime and violence and no matter who is responsible about it, we need to be serious about it and deal with the dave da day-to-day vion our communities and it's not the police doing it. >> charles ramsey is the philadelphia police commissioner and taking at his word, we're going to continue this conversation. to shoot or not to shoot. as paul beban discovered the decision is not so clear cut in the heat of the moment. >> wow, that was fast. you weren't kiddin

they have individual officers preferences. body cameras are being funded through the mayor's task force. we had to fight to be on the committee. we are on the committee. those policy recommendations will be forthcoming. >> officer involved shootings, clearly now there is an investigation done by the district attorney. we believe there should be an independent investigation. there has been no movement there. however, there is bill in sacramento is sb 227 that would eliminate grand jury in officer shootings. these are laws kept by the police department which documents each instance where an officer draws and discharges a weapon regardless of an injury. this is clearly being done. so it is a recommendation that's being followed. however the logs are not made available to the public. we believe they should on a quarterly bases. we believe that officers should not arrest or detain children in a school unless there is a threat of danger. there is now a policy of memorandum of understanding between the sfpd and the san francisco unif

officer brandon savage and his trainee, officer erin thomas, are finishing up their shift in middlefielda small charming community 45 miles east of cleveland. >> we were just driving around the village, trying to make some traffic stops. as we were heading down north state street, coming up to the intersection, i observed a green car come through the stop sign without making a complete stop. we made a u-turn in the middle of the intersection there and went after him, lights and sirens, to initiate a traffic stop on him for the violation. when the vehicle was coming to a slow stop and continued to move slowly, it did raise the hairs on the back of my neck a little bit. made me feel uneasy. before i even knew what was going to happen, i already knew the traffic stop was not going to be good. >> while officers thomas and savage are waiting to radio in the call they notice the man inside the car acting suspiciously. >> he was moving around inside of the car way too much to just be looking for his insurance information or driver's license. so i thought he was hiding something. so sergeant sav

it will protect the officer. i think it goes both ways. >> reporter: it's a camera on the shoulder, is it that powerful. >> i think it is. >> libby casey joins me from capitol hill. one of the concerns is cost. it's an issue. i wouldn't have thought about that. i think of electronics costing less and less with each passing month, how much does it cost to equip a police officer with cameras? >> the cameras are not that expensive. $300 to $600. it's the tip of the iceberg. the cost is storage, that's ongoing costs. the police department says it costs $1800 a month to have a camera operating on an officer. and they have more than 250 officers equipped with cameras, and have spend half a million on and have spend half a million on this venture. this was an early experiment with body cameras, and they thought they'd go through five terabytes in a year. they blew through that. in under six months they used 24 terabytes of storage, and it costs money >>> once a police officer comes back to the station, what happens to t

the office of citizens complaint is known as occ. we receive and investigate and make findings of civilian complaint of conduct and we ensure police practices. the agency established the voters in 82 and limited to just the san francisco police department, so complaints about the bart police or sheriff's department, other agencies we don't have jurisdictions over those agencies. who are we? we are a civilian staffed and we are city agency and we report to the police commission. the police commission over sees both our agent and the police department. we are a staff of 32. for the city charter none of our staff could have worked for the police department and our staff speak a variety of languages, cantonese, tagalog, french, spanish. we are on van ness, close to market. wheelchair accessible. in a city building. we have tty, we'll soon be able to use videoconferencing for american sign language. your invitation to speak here brought home, our brochures are not in braille and we are working with the lighthouse for the blind and working

there in mckinney it was clear the officer was out of control based improperly, but officers involved with too much, may overvent when they are faced with people who are not really behaving that badly? >> it is a concern for all police agencies in that area and elsewhere. to make sure they have an extraordinary ability to deal with stress on the job. but reality kicks in and there's so much that officers deal with day in and day out that unfortunately these events do happen. and what agencies provide for their officers are psychologists, they try to teach them within their culture that it's okay to raise their hand and stand down. but you do have events like this, that still happen on occasion. and it's part of the difficulty in police work that these things still happen. >> and obviously there is a lot of responsibility put on them. but it is a job they chose to protect and serve the public. and so what type of training do these officers get to try oharchl and cope withtohandle and cope with these situations they face? >> many police agencies offer free counseling for their officers

just as often i hear we need more officers i hear officers say we cannot [inaudible] out of crime. police officers can respond and detur it by presence or stop or chase the individual after the crime occurred bringing the individual to justice but they don't prevent crime. police are respondsing to the opportunity gap, growing inequity, homelessness. we do know this, we know keeping a kid in school prevent crimes. over 70 percent of our san francisco county population are school drop out. chief sursaid keeping a kid in school prevent crimes. most police aufsers know better than most in the room what it takes to prevent crime because they arrest the youth and adults [inaudible] we also know keeping a family house or adult house definitely prevents crime. so what if we took the number in the resolution which proposes adding 283 officer tooz the charter man date and who cost 175 thousand a year per the controllers report and instead commit those dollars to 283 at risk and low income san francisco youth at 175 thousand dollars-i didn't get to finish my sentence so i'm repeat that. inst