that they were forwarding on to the state department e-mails that relate to her conduct of official u.s. business, the same is true of those secretaries of state who served in the republican administration. and ultimately that's what the law requires that if an individual uses a personal e-mail account for official u.s. business that information, that record should be sent and maintained in the system that's been set up by that specific agency. and that is why, frankly, we encourage people -- a lot of people don't have a team like secretary clinton does. that's why we encourage them not to rely on remembering to forward an e-mail but to just use the official government system set up to ensure those records are maintained. >> you're in the cnn news room. we've been listening in to josh earnest, the white house press secretary, addressing a range of topics today. everything from hillary clinton e-mails that are drawing controversy to of course netanyahu's visit, his speech to congress today. we'll talk about all those issues in just a moment. first, we have some breaking news just into cnn. the u.s

establish clear guidelines for how individuals if they are using their personal e-mail to conduct official business can ensure that those records are properly maintained. official guidance that we offer to administration employees and certainly the guidance that i follow when i have been the white house is that i use my official government e-mail address when i'm conducting official government business. it seems the additional step of taking a personal e-mail and forwarding it to my government e-mail so it can be maintained is not incredibly uncommon for one of you or your colleagues to send an e-mail to my personal address. a few of you have it but when i do that i will answer the e-mails which i try to be good about doing. but then i will take that response and forward the e-mail to my official accounts of the record can be properly preserved. >> and you respond to the announcement from the house that they will vote on homeland security funding bill without restrictions? >> as you heard me say yesterday the white house has been urging the congress for months now to do the right thing and that is

that's why we saw the see the state department to review personal e-mail that relates to official u.s. business. secretary clinton's team comply complied with the request by reviewing her personal e-mail and pulling together the ones that related to her official work as secretary of state and forwarded to the state department to preserve and maintain the records and use them to respond to legitimate requests. >> we just heard from prime minister netanyahu, his whole premise of hating this potential deal was that iran is such a threat it can't be trutsed really under any means. do you think he overstated that threat on the basis that a deal is being worked out and he did betray the trust of allies because he discussed key points of that deal? >> let me take the first. i think susan rice, had a rather cogent way of describing our approach to this deal. distrust and verify. as she laid out and the president relayed there are variety of reasons to not trust the iranians. there are numerous examples of the iranian's not being honest with the international community about their nuclear program. their

government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> at the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> let me just say that hillary clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was a great secretary of state for me. i'm glad that hillary's instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business need to be disclosed. >> joining me now judge napolitano. so he is glad hillary has instructed that the e-mails about official business need to be disclosed. >> apparently the president has the same misunderstanding of federal law that his former secretary of state does. because the federal statute written in 1950 and enhanced during her husband's presidency and signed by him requires that documents and records used by high ranking government officials belong to the government. and when you leave office, the ex-official can ask the government for personal documents back. she did the opposite. she retained and concealed 100% of the documents with which she dealt while she was

private e-mails can be used for official business only if they are entered into government computers. clinton waited nearly 2 years before turning over 55,000 pages of e-mails that was only 089% of them. clinton asked the state department to release the e-mails back on wednesday. it could take the department months to do so. >> here at the airport a first look at, these are like apple pay. they are using stolen credit card data, the crook may be getting the numbers through hack attacks at places like home depot and target. they put the info in their phones and by away without needing their cards. >>> google plans to expandment service for buying insurance may sell it's own policy one day. >>> stocks closed higher on thursday ahead of the release of the february jobs report. economists are predicting a solid gain of over 200,000 positions. >>> philadelphia rockers hall and oats were so excited they got put in the hall of fame. they are not happy with the brooklyn-based cereal company early birds foods has a cereal called hall and oats. they say it's a trademark violation. >> i got one.

done their work to review their personal, mails for e-mails that relate to the conduct of official u.s. business and secretary clinton's team complied with that request, by reviewing her personal e-mail. pulling together all the ones that related to her official work as secretary of state and forwarded them to the state and use them to respond to legitimate requests from congress. >> as we heard from benjamin netanyahu, his whole premise for -- is that iran is such a threat, it can't be 3rus trusted really under any means do you think he overstated that threat on the basis that a deal is being worked out and do you think he did betray the trust between allies as he put it, because he discussed some key points of that deal. >> let me take the first part, i susan rice the national security advisor had a rather cogent way of our approach to deal. distrust and verify. as she laid out and even as the president relayed in his comments in the oval air force. there are a variety of reasons to not trust the iranis. there are numerous examples of the iranians not being honest with the international commun

his firing was because of nonuse of commercial e-mail for official government business. here's an ambassador under the umbrella of the secretary herself, he gets canned for this. >> i want to be fair to the ambassador, but it's clear he was urged to resign for a number of reasons, most significantly his management style and the fact that the embassy staff lost confidence and it lacked cohesion. i think that was really the grav min ofgrav gravemin of why he was let go. . if they want to make an issue of this, they can do it. the democratic national committee can make an issue out of jeb bush's use of a public personal server. whether it is consistent for him to criticize hillary clinton over that. what's not appropriate is for a taxpayer government committee, which is what we are, to be using our power, our subpoena to become an arm of the republican national committee. that's what happened this week and that is deeply disturbing. michael, we have the secretary's e-mails. she provided 55,000 pages of them to the state department. they provided the 900 pages relative to be

government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> the same time everyone else learned through news reports. >> were you disaisn't -- disappointed? >> my policy is transparency. all my records are available and archived and i am glad hillary clinton is instructing those e-mails that had to do with official business need to be disclosed. >> we will talk with a firm clinton lawyer in a moment. >> and huckabee has dealt with the clintons since before his days and has hillary clinton violateed the spirit of the laws that even if she waited two years after leaving office to turn over the e-mails, that is all right. >> i do know at that time there was no time requirement. new there is. she has given everything according to her staff, to the state department. >> governor, what did hillary clinton do wrong? >> there is a protocol she did not follow that was a directive in the obama administration. there is also leg issues about whether it is a good idea, even a lawful idea to store top secret information which a secretary of state would be

administration staffers is that they should just save themselves the extra step and do their official government businesse-mail account. that is the path that the vast majority of administration staffers use. i put myself in that category. if there are occasions in which there happens to be an e-mail exchange on one's personal e-mail account that is relevant to their official responsibilities, it's just important for them to remember to forward that e-mail to their official government account so it can be properly preserved and maintained. >> is there anything happening either at the white house or at the state department to go back and look at whether there were any security issues that came up with secretary clinton using a private e-mail or private e-mail server? >> nothing like that that i'm aware of. roberta? >> one of the justices this morning suggested that the court could give states time to prepare for the impact if it decided to rule against the government in the case. i'm just wondering if you have any response to that? >> hi everybody. i'm thomas roberts here at msnbc headquarters in new york

. >>> hillary clinton is keeping quiet about the private e-mail account she used for official business while she was sect of state. when we return some republicans say clinton has not been completely forthcoming with their request for information. >>> mike we have two days in a row with gorgeous weather. feels like it's been forever since that happened. rain arrives tomorrow, we'll track it >>> welcome back. hillary clinton along with her daughter chelsea and melinda gates are all together in new york today for a clinton event on general equality. it is an opportunity to address the unfolding e-mail controversy during her time as secretary of state. but so far she only offered a 26-word tweet on the subject. don champion has more. >> reporter: hillary clinton has yet to publicly answer questions about her use of private e-mail for official business while secretary of state. >> the silence is going to hurt her. >> reporter: republicans are using the likely presidential candidate's silence to attack her. the head of the committee investigating the wednesday attack says clinton has not be

hillary clinton used her private e-mail to conduct not some, but all official business. and not just her private e-mail. but one created and operated by a private computer server in her home. giving her and only her control and access to those government e-mails. but if she releases the 5,000 pages of them as the state department to make them public, what's the problem? the problem, clinton and her staff decided what e-mails to turn over to the state department. who knows what was included and what was not included. we don't even know how many there were to begin with. so by sifting through them, she has decided what we should see and not see. so the state department doesn't have all them, they can only produce the ones that she has handed over. hillary. that's why you're supposed to use a government account. you don't get to hide what you don't want us to see. that's just not how it works. but you already knew that. didn't you, hillary? you forced out that former u.s. air force general, an ambassador to kenya in 2012 in part for using personal e-mails for official busin

government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> at the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> pelley: well, the white house revised that answer today. spokesman josh earnest said mr. obama did know that clinton had a private account because he sent e-mails there for four years. >> the president was not aware of the fact this was a personal e-mail server and that this was the e-mail address that she was using exclusively for all her business. >> pelley: recently clinton turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails to the state department. she's tweeted that she hopes they'll be released to the public. there's a murder mystery at a prestigious dog show. who poisoned one of the contend centers and apple goes into the watch business when the "cbs evening news" continues. ...and the wolf was huffing and puffing... kind of like you sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said... doctor: symbic

government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> so do you see white house distancing going on? >> somewhat. it's interesting because earlier in the week they were sort of defending her by saying they can't necessarily see anything wrong here. >> sort of. >> sort of. and we can get into that. but i find it interesting the president's response assay saying i learned about it from news reports. but i think the bottom line question, major garrett of cbs asked a very good question this week of josh earnest which is were there two sets of rule, one for the clintons and one for everyone else. and that's why i think the media coverage has been intense because other cabinet secretaries, sure, they have personal e-mail account, but they have official e-mail accounts, as well. she had personal only that she used for four years. no one in the white house who e-maileded with the secretary ever said hey, wait a second, the rest of us -- >> that's good. media left, right and cent

why isn't that a fair top snake he used a private mail server for official business. do we let him be his own judge and jury? >> first of all he turned over hundreds of thousands of mails in addition do which you would grow the security implications of the governor of florida and the secretary of state are different. >> but this, too in fairness it has taken 7 1/2 years and people criticize hillary clinton for doing this last year two years out. it has taken him 7 1/2 years and we still get documents from governor bush. >> this former 109, the separation statement the it is clear and every low he of the state department has to sign and swear they have turned over all of their papers all classified and unclassified they had when they were in the office of the state department. if they don't, if they sign it and they have protecten that pledge, it is a felony and they can go to prison and be disqualified great public office. one, do you know if she signed it two, did she live up to the pledge? >> i assume we will find out and i hope we find out whether all prior secreta

government for official business while she was secretary of state?> the same time everybody else earned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> the policy by administration is to encourage transparency. and that's why my e-mails through blackberry that i carry around, all those records, are available, and archived, and i'm glad that hillary is instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business knead to be disclosed. >> we'll talk with a former clinton lawyer in a moment. but first mike huckabee, who's dealt with the clintons since before his days as governor of arkansas. governor secretary clinton's spokesman, nick merrill, says that she abided by quote, both the letter and spirit of the rules. and state department official official marie harf said even if she waited two years after she left office to turn over all of her e-mails, that's all right. here she is. >> i do know that at that time, there was no time requirement. now there is. and she has given everything according to her staff to the state department. >> so g

retrieve all the e-mail that was sent by secretary clinton and received by secretary clinton on official business as secretary of state, or once she got it in her possession, she was able to delete what she wanted and it's permanently deleted? >> can you get to the bottom line? >> no. the chloe thing is to have access to her entire account. remember, she gave 50,000 pages to the state -- >> out of how many? >> we don't know. >> that she said we are related to her work as secretary -- >> who decided. >> she chose. >> personally? >> they said to her give us your e-mails related to your work, and she came in in october, december said here are 50,000 e-mails from my account related to my work. here they are. it wasn't here's my personal account, go find the stuff that relates to my work, you do it. >> well, that just demonstrates the fact that she had power over what information to give to anybody. >> right. right. inch everybody would want that. >> the two central questioners is what was the purpose of it, and when state asked her for the relevant e-mail, who decided and on what basis what was relev

hillary clinton insists she didn't break any rules when she used a private e-mail account for official business during her term as secretary of state. >> she answered some questions yesterday about the issues. susan mcginnis has the latest. >> i saw it as a matter of convenience. >> reporter: the e-mail saga dogging hillary clinton's likely presidential campaign continues to intensify despite attempts tuesday to explain why she used a private e-mail account to conduct business during her time as secretary of state. >> i fully complied with every rule i was governed by. >> reporter: clinton claimed every e-mail related to official business was preserved and turned over to the state department, something she did two years after she left the administration. any private messages were deleted. >> any e-mail abouts planning chelsea's wedding or my mother's funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends as well as yoga routines. >> reporter: many republicans want more answers. no one but hillary clinton knows if she handed over relevant e-mail, said in a statement. they want clinton to turn her pri

government for official business while secretary of state?rybody else read those reports. lou: not exactly they tried to clarify his defensive comments and assertions that implied he had no basis to know anything whatsoever about urges use of the official system the white house had to witness it he did he tell hillary clinton during her tenure as secretary of state but he was not aware of the details behind the e-mail address or the server that leaves the question as to whether he or anyone else bothered to notice her e-mail address? the president was left to his own devices not the rich knowledge base that supports the leader of the world but this is hardly the first time the obama administration or our president has used the reliant on the news excuse when asked about a scandal obama and his administration and pleaded ignorance early and often on operation faster period it's. >> i heard of the news about "fast & furious" where allegedly guns or run into mexico and the etf knew about it but did not apprehend those. the attorney-general has b

but the controversy over why she exclusively used a private e-mail account for official business whilecretary of state continues to follow her. in an appearance on "meet the press" sunday, senator dianne feinstein called on clinton to fully explain her actions. >> i think at this point, from this point o the silence is going to hurt her. >> reporter: some democrats have come to clinton's defense. >> at the end of the day people will -- this will just be regarded as a slight hiccup, small bump in the road six months from now. >> reporter: late last year clinton turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails to the state department for review. about #00 pages -- 800 pages containing 300 of clinton's e- mails were handed over to the congressional house committee investigating the 2012 benghazi attacks. republican tray daughtery who heads -- goughty who heads the committee says there are huge gaps. >> are gaps of months and months. if you think of her on a c-17 flying to libya, we have no e- mails from that day. >> clinton has only tweeted about the issue and says she wants the public to see her e- m

he used a private e-mail server for official business? are we letting jeb bush grade his own homework? >> first of all, he turned over hundreds of thousands of e-mails in addition to which i think you agree the security implications of the government of florida and secretary of state are different. >> but this too, chris in fairness, it's taken him 7 1/2 years. people are criticizing secretary clinton for doing this last year, two years out. it's taken him 7 1/2 years and we're still getting documents from governor bush. >> i want to ask you about this form, 109, the separation statement. it's awfully clear and basically every employee of the state department has to sign and swear that they have turned over all of their papers classified and unclassified that they had when they were in the office in the state department. and if they don't, if they sign it and they have broken that pledge it's a felony they could go to prison, be disqualified from public office. one do you know if she signed it and, two did she live up to this pledge? >> i

was no federal regulation prohibiting an official then or now from using a personal e-mail for official businessataloged properly and made part of the official record. she's done that now. she claims this is everything she has. look she spoke today as jeff zeleny just said to what she would have done look back. she can speak to that. what we're focused on now we that have documents, we're going through them. >> so as far as the state department is concerned, you obviously speak for the state department it's over. she's met her responsibilities and we can move on. is that a fair assessment from the state department perspective? >> it's not over. year under going a huge review of the documents. this is an ongoing process for us. i think we'll leave the partisan politics and analysis to people who do that on a daily basis. we don't do that at the state department. that's why we're focused on these documents. >> as a former secretary of state has hillary clinton met all of her responsibilities to the federal government. >> she said she turned over everything. that's her responsibility. she says she

on those instances in which official business is conducted on personal e-mail accounts it is importantecords, those personal e-mails, to be forwarded to the agency so they can be properly maintained. it is as simple as just forwarding it to your official government account so those e-mails can be properly maintained and preserved. >> joining me now a ed randell and glen thrush. let's talk about the security issue. hillary clinton is e-mailing heads of state over sensitive matters of state and is using an e-mail address that was hacked into once that was not on government servers at a time when cybersecurity is a major priority for the white house and the american government. did she do the wrong thing here? >> i think your premise, alex is not correct. i think your premise is government e-mail is more secure. >> they have people monitoring them. they get hacked into. her e-mail account was also hacked into. at least you have a dedicated web team that is trying to deal with the threat. we have no assurances from the clinton campaign that they were doing anything of the sort. >> first of

. >>>> the event brought together political leaders, administration officials business entrepreneurs journalists, and science and technologies efforts. among those interviewed, craig venter, founder, chairman, and ceo of the institute. he is interviewed by the science correspondent by npr. this is about 20 minutes. >> we are in an unusual technical situation because craig venter, who is in san diego, he is supposed to be here is ill with something. craig, can you hear me? he is will with -- is ill with something. he is looking at a good. -- pretty good. craig, can you hear me at all? do you think he is scary looking? [laughter] >> he is not scary looking, just an ill man. >> we have a number of backup systems which i suppose we should employ. if worse comes to worse, i will justly what i think he would've done if i can control him like a puppet. [laughter] all right, maybe now he is hearing me. craig, can you hear me? >> i can. >> we lost you for that. >> so what is wrong with you? [laughter] >> did not want to leave the sunshine washington, d.c.. a number of things going on. it woul

secretary clinton and her team have taken all of the personal e-mails related to her official business of secretary of state and provided them to the state department so they could be archived and maintained. >> reporter: republicans on the special benghazi commission said that is not good enough for them because essentially the former secretary was the arbitrator of the e-mails to delete and she deemed personal and not official business and why republicans on the panel want a third party arbitrator. >> we need to get to the truth. and because she chose to conduct. and this is of her own choosing, she chose to conduct state department business on a private e-mail account and it is incumbent on her to turn over her server and so we can do an examination. >> reporter: you talk about the impact on the democratic presidential race. martin o'mally said he is tired of hearing about this. and when i was a governor they kept them all and a shot as a potential rival. >> we'll go back to that. thank you. ed henry, thank you. >> and no danger of hacking and the e-mail controversy shoes "no pass,

their work to review their personal e-mail in search of records that relate to the conduct of official u.s. businessher personal e-mail pulling together all of the ones that related to her official work as secretary of state and forwarded to the state department so they could preserve and maintain the records and use them to respond to legitimate requests by congress. >> and in the speech by netanyahu and his premise of hating this deal iran is such a threat it can't be trusted really under any means. do you think that he overstated that threat on the basis that a deal is being worked out and do you think that he did betray the trust between allies as you put it, because he discussed some key points of that potential deal? >> well michelle, let me take the first part first, which is i think susan rice the national security adviser, had a cogent way of summarizing our approach to this deal. distrust and verify. as she laid out and even as the president relayed in his comments in the oval office there are a variety of reasons to not trust the iranians. there are numerous examples of the iranians not b

government decisions pertaining to quote, the non-use of commercial e-mail for official government business. that's language that seemingly would apply to what she has done. >> that's true. the language should apply to all of us sings we're all in the state department but i need to correct something. first of all, i would say that i was complying. i used the open net at work and in my residence, but at the same time i questioned some of the policy and tried to get some of it changed and so i wasn't avoiding it i wasn't flouting it i wasn't being in noncompliance, but i did raise some serious questions about the use of commercial accounts because i thought that they were helpful to me in the course of my duties as the ambassador to kenya. >> and, again, what i'm trying to do sir, is understand the parallels between your case and secretary clinton's case. it occurs to me that the chief of staff for the department of state, cheryl mills, is the individual who fired you, again, in part because of your use of a private e-mail account. do you presume that ms. mills would have known at the time sh

officials to not have a governmental account? >> we think if people chose to conduct government business on e-mail they should do so using their official account. i guess if you chose not to do business on e-mail it would be fine not having an account. but the point is ensuring existing records in personal e-mails need to be maintained and reserved and they can do that by sending team the to agency officials who work with the national archives and registry system woo do that >> you are not clear on what is happening in terms of how senior officials throughout the administration are handling their use of e-mail. how does that reflect on this administration's commitment to being the most transparent administration in history? >> well carol, what is important is it is important for everybody in the administration to abide by the guidelines in the federal records act. the president signed into law a business that clarified the guidelines and timeframe in which individuals who have official government records in their personal e-mail how they can make sure they are maintained and preserved in line with the federal records act. that is at th

clinton used personal e-mail for official business when she was secretary of state.k at the top story -- that's a look at the top stories we are following this hour. mitch mcconnell holding a vote trying to override president obama's veto of the bill that approved the keystone pipeline. peter cook joins me with the latest. we are receiving word the vote to override did fail in the senate. >> the final tally was 62-37. they needed two thirds majority to override the veto. there were a handful of democrats that voted in favor of overriding the president's veto but not enough to get to that magic number. this is the most significant veto from this president since he took office and probably not the last with republicans in control. it's also not the final chapter for the keystone xl pipeline. he said he vetoed it because it bypassed the process for reviewing projects of this kind. we are still waiting for a final recommendation as to whether this project should be approved. the president said that decision would come within weeks or months and would certainly come befor

government for official business while she was secretary of state?arned in news reports. hillary clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was a great secretary of state for me. the policy of my administration is to encourage transparency and that's why my e-mails, the blackberry i carry around, al those records are available and archived, and i'm glad that hillary clinton's instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business need to be disclosed. >> well, you say you had the most transparent administration ever. said it again a couple weeks ago. >> it's true. >> is that the same song and dance? >> i like bill plante, but that's not what you say. you never e-mailed with each other in four years? she was secretary of state, not one e-mail did you receive from hillary clinton? hey, it's a private address. >> right. >> he's not telling truth, sorry. >> look at the photos recently, which i have over the past few days hillary clinton on the blackberry, sits there with the blackberry in the case. that was totally tied to he

controversy surrounding hillary clinton and her use of private e-mails, several of them for official business serving as secretary of state and the president praised her service and her effort to be transparent. >> let me say hillary clinton has been an outstanding public servant and a great secretary of state for me. the policy of my administration is encourage transperency. and my e-mail from the black berry that i carry around and records are available and archived and i am glad hillary is instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business is disclosed. the fact that she puts them forward will allow us to make sure people have the information they need. >> and the house committee investigating benghazi is subpeonaed and the e-mails are subpeonaed. and hillary clinton publicly addressed the controversy via twitter asking the state department to review and release the e-mails and a process that could take months. the medical helicopter smashes in the ground and kills the pilot. investigators are trying to determine what went wrong. our top story as we go across america. miss

>> reporter: she finally explained why she used private e-mail for official business as secretary of state. >> looking back it would have been better for me to use two separate phones and two e-mail accounts. i thought using one device would bepler and obviously it hasn't worked 0 out that way. >> reporter: republicans were quick to pounce on that explanation circulating this video of clinton from last month indicating she no longer minds having two devices. >> iphone or android? [ laughter ] >> iphone. okay in full disclosure -- >> blackberry. >> and a blackberry. >> reporter: understate department rules enforced while she was secretary employees must turn over any e-mails from private accounts that relate to official business. but clinton didn't do that until 22 months after she left office. why did you not go along with state department rules until nearly two years after you left office? >> the laws and regulations in effect when i was secretary of state allowed me to use e-mail for work. >> reporter: why did you wait to turn those e-mails over? the rules say you have to turn them

government for official business while she was secretary of state?the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> let me just say that hillary clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was a great secretary of state for me. the policy might have administration is to encourage transparent and why e-mails, the blackberry i carry around, all of those records are available and archived and i'm glad that hillary has instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business need to be sglofdisclosed. >> you say you had the most transparent administration ever. you said it a couple of weeks ago. >> it's true. >> how does this square with that? >> i think the fact she is going to be putting them forward will allow us to make sure that people have the information they need. >> now cnn senior political senior correspondent her husband bill talks about another controversy they have been facing. >> reporter: there was a lot of anticipation about whether hillary clinton would address this e-mai

the chairman of the house oversight committees monitoring on the official business card there are appointed and legitimate questions asked of secretary clinton. many should be asked of those making a direct accusations of follow up on that. >> forty-seven gop senators signing a letter sent to the iranian leadership, leadership, does the white house consider that a violation of the logan act? >> i know this is something a lot of commentators have's regulated on including some with a lot more legal knowledge than i. i do for you to the department of justice. ultimately it is their responsibility. again, there has been speculation, but speculation, but i am not aware of conversations about the logan act and its relation to the specific matter. >> sec. kerry secretary kerry today said that any deal would not be legally binding. an executive agreement would not be legally binding. is that the proper way from the white house perspective and if so to the american people who would say what are we doing what would you say. >> that the pres. will be expecting iran to make specific commitments and ser

business. and it remains highly unusual, in my experience, in the 13 years that i was director of litigation, for a high level official to solely use a private system for the conduct of government business. >> steven, in bill clinton's administration, his cia director, john deutsche, faced prosecution for improperly using -- handling classified material that ended up on his home computer. how is that different? what are the ways in which that's different from what we currently know about hillary clinton's case? >> sure, lawrence. there are two critical differences. the first is, we still have no suggestion that any of the materials that then secretary clinton transmitted through her personal e-mail involved classified information. and there are reasons to doubt that would have happened given the protocols that government employees have to go through. >> what is an example of a protocol that would prevent that. >> you need a particular identification to logon to a system of classification. there are security protocols in place to prevent attaching a file -- >> steven, how about -- there is knowledge, there's personal k

government for official business while secretary of state? >> the same time that everyone else learned through the news reports. >> do you see white house distancing going on? >> somewhat. early in the week they were sort of defending her by saying they did not necessarily see anything wrong. >> sort of. sort of. >> we can get into that but the president's response as i learn from news reports like the e-mails of lois lerner but the question was good that was asked: were there two sets of rule one for the clintons and another for everyone else. that is the bottom line and why the coverage has been intense. other cabinet secretaries, sure, they have personal e-mail accounts but they have official, too. she had personal, only, for four years and no one in the white house was e-mailed about this saying, wait the rest of us have this. >> the media is left and right and center treating this as a big scandal. does it deserve the coverage it is getting? >> it is started off as an inside the beltway story with the "washington post" and "new york time

but the white house said president obama issued guidance to all federal agencies to conduct official business doing official government email addresses. the state didn't says secretary john kerry is following that directive. >>> in as much anticipated speech to the u.s. congress. benjamin netanyahu harly condemned the ongoing u.s. negotiations. aimed at blocking iran from obtaining nux weapons. benjamin netanyahu said they were leading to what he called a bad deal. it doesn't block iran's path to the bombs. it paves iraq's path to the bombs. >> the white house says president obama did not watch the speech but did catch up on the transcript. the president said netanyahu did not offer "any viable alternatives" and said congress should wait until their a deal until they evaluate it. secretary of state john kerry in sitser land negotiating. >> former cia david petraeus pleaded guilty to confiding f.b.i. agency giving 8 binders of classified material to his biographer paula broadwell. a sentencing indicate is not set but petraeus and the prosecutors agree to two years probation and a $40,000 fine.