offit: not him. is right, that we spend a lot of money per capita on health care yet if you look at us compared to other developed countries we are far down on the list in terms of longevity and infant mortality so we can do much better. i agree. we can eat better, exercise better, do a lot of things that make us healthier. drink less, smoke less. he is not the guy to head that because he has fixed believes that are resistant to science. if you show him he is wrong he will not believe it because he holds onto these believes like religious beliefs. geoff: he said food regulators are too close to the industries they are supposed to hold to account. does he have a point? dr. offit: it is always about the science. these are certainly the people who make foods make money, people who make vaccines make money from making vaccines. it is always about the science. this notion these industries are too close to regulators sounds good but it what it boils down to is what is the evidence that has made a differenc

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paul offit, someone that you know. well, he is he is suggested, some questions that get asked specifically about vaccines, saying, if you were the parents of young children today, would you vaccinate them? according to the cdc immunization schedule? and if not, which vaccines would you avoid and why? it's a really fair question. i think that you've heard very different things from rfk jr. in the past on this. on one hand, i think you're going to hear probably that he has vaccinated his own children, and he thinks that there are vaccines that can be very effective. he's going to say he's not anti-vaccine. and these will probably be part of his opening remarks. my guess, considering that he's taking a more conciliatory approach to this. but at the same time, in the past, he's likely to get asked about the fact that he has said there is not a single safe and effective vaccine. so how do you reconcile these things? and importantly, what does it mean for the guy who's going to be the ceo of the largest health enterprise in

this is a man who, at some level, i think has lost touch with reality. >> doctor paul offit, thank you, as always for coming in. i appreciate your time. john. >> happening soon. oklahoma's board of education will vote on a measure that would require families to report their immigration status when enrolling their children in school. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild is with us on this. good morning. whitney, what's this all about? >> well, john. the oklahoma board of education. proposal proponents say. >> is more. >> about data collection. >> and it. >> is not. >> about immigration enforcement. >> for example, here's a. >> quote from this proposal. >> nothing in this. section shall. be construed. >> to prohibit. >> or inhibit any child from receiving the education. >> they are. >> entitled to receive. >> the concern. >> here, john. >> is that by. >> requiring parents or legal guardians. >> to provide proof. of citizenship. status or legal. >> citizenship status, that that is going to have. >> a massive. >> chilling effect. and people who are highly skeptical that the inten

and doctor paul offit. director of the vaccine education. >> center at the children's. >> hospital of philadelphia. >> he's also the co-inventor of a rotavirus vaccine. so. >> vaughn, first. >> to you. >> you interviewed. >> rfk jr. in the past, he has indeed flip flop, changed his positions on vaccines and on abortion at this hearing. what stood out to you? >> right. i think that that is where you saw some of these democratic senators, particularly ron wyden and michael bennet and maggie hassan, try to implicate effectively robert f kennedy jr. s level of trust on this committee, and it was ron wyden that specifically asked him, are we to trust that you are telling the truth now under oath in front of congress, or were you telling the truth on those podcasts over the last several years because they run counter and contradictory to one another? it was the day after the election when i talked to him. he was down in palm beach. they're going through the transition process right before he was nominated, and th

people that we listen to often is a very well known, very well respected doctor named doctor paul offit, the head of children's hospital of philadelphia. and in speaking with him, he has said that the now nominee to be the next health secretary to take over after you leave office, after you leave the post, rfk, he calls rfk dangerous, he says, simply given his views on vaccines, that rfk jr. is a dangerous person to have in charge of america's health agencies. secretary, let me play this for you. >> he's not a vaccine skeptic. i'm a vaccine skeptic. everyone who sits around the table at the fda vaccine advisory committee is a skeptic, right? show us the data. show us the data. prove that it's safe and effective. he's not a skeptic. he's a cynic. he doesn't believe those data. he thinks there's a big conspiracy to hide the truth, making him a dangerous man. >> secretary, do you think rfk jr.. would be dangerous? as the head of america's health agency? >> well, it would be dangerous not to follow the science and the facts. and again, you don't have the luxury when you're secretary of the

but to that point, doctor paul offit is the head of the vaccine education center. and he was on with me yesterday. and he said, no matter what rfk says today, that he cannot be trusted. let me play this for you. >> he's told you who he is. for the last 20 years, he has said again and again he considers no vaccine to be of benefit. he has said again and again that he thinks the polio vaccine killed, in his words, many, many, many more children than it saved. he's told you that he doesn't think hiv is the cause of aids. he's told you he thinks that the hepatitis b vaccine doesn't work. he he is what he says he's been for the last 20 years. why are they expecting that when he sits in front of them, he's going to be something different no matter what he says. >> then, congresswoman, if rfk jr. is confirmed, what are you going to be telling? what are you going to be telling your patients? >> well, i. will tell patients and the. >> public what i've been. >> saying for years. >> which is that. >> it is normal. >> with any. >> medical procedure. >> to have. >> questions. >