countries, are putting enormous subsidies into these companies and giving them incentives to move offshoreen if the technology was developed here in the united states, they end up going to china because the chinese government saying we are going to help you get started, we will help you scale up, we will give you low interest loans or no-interest loans. we will give you whatever it takes to get started here. and that's part of the reason why a lot of technologies that developed here, we have now -- solar energy, wind energy, and so what the loan guarantee program was designed to do was close that gap and see let's see if we can help some of those folks locate here and create jobs here in the united states. now, we knew from the start that the loan guarantee program was going to entail risk by definition. if it was a risk-free proposition, then we wouldn't have to worry about it. but the overall portfolio has been successful. it has allowed us to help companies, for example, start advanced battery manufacturing here in the united states. it helped to create jobs. there were going to be some c