here is what happens if obama drives us ofthe cliff.t 82 billion in higher taxes with the top 2 percent, add to that, we don't want to leave anybody of ofthis deal, $223 billion. now, do you suppose there is a reason that president obama likes to all the talk about those tax hikes, the tp 2%? i wonder why. could it be that he wants to drawttention away from the 400 -- let's do that right here, 400 -- $4 billion projected by the congressional budget office, $494 billion of obamacare taxes that will hit t the 2%, not the 98%, but the middle-class, and they start hitting on january 1st, and it does not matter whether we go over the cliff for not. if you have not heard about those tax hikes, perhaps it is because the mainstream liberal media for some strange reason does not want to talk about the inconvenience impact of obama taxes on our middle-class. >> the bill is passed. lou: the house passes the stem emigration bill. some democrats call it racist and pandering. how that? and republicans also introduced the achieve act. other republican

on our way to this break, here is our list ofthe folks the president should also consider meeting with on the fiscal cliffu? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open a night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. ♪ lou: in "lou dobbs forum" we will talk about illegal immigration and efforts to change our immigration laws. the house today passed the so-called stem jobs act that would provide 55,000 permanent residency visas to foreign students with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. the republican measure drew fire from democrats, some democrats, some going so far as to level the measure cist. >> that is racist if not in its intent then certainly in its effect. republicans have received were just received historically low votes from minorities in the past election, yet they want to create an immigration system that gives vises with one hand while taking them away fr

ofthe protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear centives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff.i think that's what he wants? probably not, but do i think there are incentives fo him to do it temecula. gerri: never looked at it that way. as you look at this debate on going, there are a lot of folks who say we will be flirting with recession or in recession ifwe do go over the cliff. do you agree? >> that happens only if we go off the cliff and stay off for an extended amount of time. to we don't go into recession just because we don't have a resolution on january the first. it's a question of whether we have no resolution at that time but it seems that it's likely to a come within a short time. the longer we go into january with no resolution the more likely that we do go off the cliff into recession. gerri: the broader concern is if we confined in the ground. great to have you on the show. only moments ago i was speaking to a fellow whose business is buying and selling small businesses. he taught me all year long small business owners out there seeing the fiscal cliff in front o