we'rstill a little too i don't think toe able to go through all that kind ofwork. we're going after the early age investor you can't really get an early stage investor using an ipo. you're already doing your ipo. >> b that said, youre getting ipo-level funds. >> absolutely. >> ablutely. viable alternative. >> to going to t open market. >> is this a substitute for ipo or is this something that bridges the gap between angel and venture invesng and ipo? >> you know, ihink it will work in ery single one of thos cases where you don't necessarily have to use angel anymore. you don't necesrily have to use venture capitalists. you can go dirtly to a we have those groups, those groups evolve partiallyecause you have never been able to vertise to let people know you were trying traise money, so they were one of the filters or aonduit or funnel for instors to be ae to find coanies like ours. to use those.t necessarily have we can actually go dire. >> thateing said, how do yo convin people to put their money with you? you're not doing arospectus or all thosehings i assume. wha

ayana mathis' first novel, "the twelve tribes of edges ofworks at the the great migration when southern blacks moved to northern cities, consider to be one of the most transformative moment in the 20th century. it covers the history of one family. it became a national best seller. "the twelve tribes of hattie" earned the sort of reviews of writers covet. it is now out in paperback. great to have you on this program. set your modesty aside for just a second. [laughter] i think every writer believes his or her work is good work. if it is not, why do it? were you at also prized by the acclaim and the embrace of this first -- >> you norma sleet could i always make a joke, writers have different hats. sweatpants and computer hat. then you have a public hat. i did not expect it all for my public have to be so big. my relationship with the book was really that of, it was my private manuscript. it was my word document. i'm still very shocked at its public life. tavis: why this subject matter for you? >> it is interesting. it was slightly and next event. i was in grad school when i wrote this bo