>> we are engaging, as admiral ogers mentioned. there is an upside to this connectedness in the fact the commercial market and commercial imagery market is getting into a business that was prior government only entity, it has great advantage. and we seek to build on that and take advantage of those of elements. we also need to go in eyes wide open and realize there is a risk. i don't have a bias, i have an awareness, and appreciation for this open development and innovation. and my commitment is to smartly gauge with it to make sure that we use -- smartly engage with it nd realize it is a risk. mr. blunt: do you think that was a fair criticism that the intelligence community is biased against using open-source information? >> i think historically that may well have been true. i don't think that is the case today. we have an enormous or principles -- open source enterprise. that does its best to stay up with the world class and information management, get information that is not stolen secrets but open-source information to the righ