now we can cross the live to charlie rose dean of the college of law at ohio northern university thank you very much for being with us here on our to international weather to be here now if we get right down to it the 2nd impeachment comes just a week before trump officially leaves his office some may ask is there actually a point to any of this. i think the counter-argument is that there is a huge well we're moving really experiencing so in the history of our nation that we have no experience or any gold in real on everyone's phone. and vision upon it so we're dealing with a set of circumstances who are frankly or 1st impression now you're absolutely right everybody around the world saw what was happening in real time. to the senate now is where this all goes the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell has already ruled out a trial before trump leaves office can a president legally actually be tried after he leaves office is there a precedent for this. we've never impeach someone both for who has already left office but it's an open question given the fact that impeachment a convicti

charlie rose dean of the college of law at ohio northern university told us what penalties could be imposed against trump and how the legal process could play out. since he will have already concluded his term what conviction in the senate would do is open the door to an additional vote on a majority basis only determine whether or not he would be banned from. future public office and i think the odds are very high that that goal would be successful if the larger her go is 1st accomplished of an actual conviction in the son in the state prosecutions if they make it to trial there's absolutely no bar he can't be pardoned for it at the federal level and if the state of new york for instance were to decide that they were going to proceed forward with indictment in trial he would get his day in court just like any of the defendant on the federal potential federal charges is going to come down to whether or not president truck chooses to do something that no president has ever done attempt to self carton which he's actually been advised not to do by every legal adviser that he's raised the issue

first in 2010 and he is a person who was a graduate of alfred university where he was an all-american swimmer and a graduate of ohio northern law school. in his bio he pointed out something to me that i had not known he was the youngest of 12 children and was raised by a single mother his father a military hero passed away when he was only two years old welcome tom and welcome debbie. the mages kickoff at the beginning and ask both of you what to do you was going through your head during the time of the invasion of congress? did you know what was going on and did you think it was going to be as bad as it turned out to be? where were you when you first were told something was happening? debbie where were you? i was actually in the house floor. when this began and i began to notice some of our security was becoming a bit intense because of the sheer noise but i really did not realize that anything was knots without her out of the ordinary. i did others would be protesters that day then suddenly i saw somebody taking the floor but then candidly at the same time steph a comment me and said to me we need you to help people, and