and it's not a stretch to see that a lot of these teens whether it's aurora, colorado, or in ohio or memphishundreds of people converging on a mall all at the same time you have to think there's some form of coordination. and, you know, maybe that's the one thing they can do to ease shoppers' minds who are actually going to show up to spend money. but it's funny, joe, because when you talk to people about these issues, a lot of people say, well, that's why i shop online. that's why i don't go to the mall anymore. >> that's a great point. amazon is destroying the majority of retailers. i don't feel people are going to the malls to shop anymore. they're mainly going to hang out. i was in a target on christmas eve -- not bragging or anything. >> wow. >> and it was empty. i was shocked at how empty it is. when i go to the malls, they are empty. it's no different than a sporting event or concert. when you know large groups of people are going to converge, it's usually teens on school break that are going tog out. when you know they're going to converge, beef up security and increase police presen