the bureau chief at the ohio state house gave us this analysis. the ohio state house gave us this anals. this was something we could see building _ analysis. this was something we could see building over - analysis. this was something we could see building over the - analysis. this was something we could see building over the last. could see building over the last couple of days. ohio has a month long early voting period and the number of people in ohio who voted early was huge, 700,000 people, and more than twice the number of people who voted last year in the primaries for governor and us senate. this was a big turnout or read it and was expected to be a low turnout, it's august and people are not thinking about elections but it got a lot of interest. it got global interest. while it was a very pitched battle between the two sides it really seems like the no side had the momentum going in. to seems like the no side had the momentum going in. to moscow next, the city was — momentum going in. to moscow next, the city was again _ momentum going in. to moscow next, the city was again tar

ohio state - 2024. karen kasler, bureau i chief at the ohio state house news bureau, thanks forjoining us this evening.this evening. it's great to talk to you. _ us this evening. it's great to talk to you, now. _ around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the world bank is pausing the distribution of new funds to uganda, saying the country's anti—lgbtq laws contradict its values. the new law makes being homosexual punishable by death and life imprisonment, and was passed back in may. existing projects funded by the bank will not be affected by this decision. the us supreme court granted the biden administration's request to reinstate a federal regulation to curb privately made firearms called "ghost guns" — at least for now. the 5—to—4 decision put on hold a july 5th decision by a districtjudge in texas that blocked the administration's 2022 rule. under the rule, the government has the power to regulate ghost gunsjust as traditional firearms are. republican presidential hopeful and florida governor ron desantis replaced his campaign manager on tu

karen kasler, bureau chief at the ohio state house news bureau, thanks so much for being with us thisu. thanks the closely watched amazon summit in brazil wrapped up day one with a pledge from nations to create a new alliance to fight deforestation in the region. it is the first time in 14 years that leaders of eight amazon countries are meeting, vowing on tuesday to stop the amazon from reaching a "point of no return." the lengthy roadmap outlined in the city of belaine promotes sustainable development, an end to deforestation, and fighting the organised crime that fuels it. let's take a look at what's at stake then. the amazon stretches nearly seven million square kilometres, or nearly three million square miles. about two—thirds of that is in brazil. another seven countries and one territory share the remaining third. under brazil's former president, jair bolsonaro, years of deforestation in the amazon worsened. the orange on this map shows the areas of deforestation between 2019 and 2022 in the state of para where the summit is being held. but new data shows a positive shift — def

state. ohio's voter preference over the past ten years splits about 54% republican 46% democratic. but under the maps, republicans control 67 of 99 state housee taking a kind of blushing pink state and turning it deep red. >> right. >> to your point, they're making ohio into ballot, and that's entirely the point. >> and -- these maps are unconstitutional, and the ohio legislature keeps saying, well, try to stop us, and you had to trump judges -- recent elections had to happen under these unconstitutional maps. so, the ways in which democracy is being thwarted are just -- it's very, very layered. this is the one opportunity that this coming referendum in november for the voters to make their voices heard and that is why they want to shot -- >> i think, to your point, even if it doesn't succeed, republicans elsewhere are going to see, hey, it didn't work there. but, man, did they come close. maybe we tried here. >> yeah, they are already planning. it -- this is happening, there's plans for this in missouri, in florida, arizona. this is the kind of next wave for the antiabortion movement. >> oh, lord. michelle goldberg, thank you for chroniclin

facing have done nothing to deter him from running his campaign to return to the white house and 2024 folks. ohio state laws bug phase. the establishment is seeking to interfere and the 2024 elections as well. the timing of the charges of it. the whole thing is an attempt by the establishment to interfere in the 2024 election in my view. and the judge is apparently uh, looking to speed this trial up, the prosecution set today in court. they want to expedite this trial. so there's a good chance she might schedule it for the beginning of next year, january, how could someone run for president of the united states when they have 3 trials, one right after the other, taking them up right up to the, to the eve of the election the median glorifies hunter by uh that oh and its a father's love for his son and it's his son was troubled. he was on drugs about blah, blah, blah, blah. don't forget, his son hunter, just got a sweetheart deal. a plea bargain that a judge. well, this is a mess. this is on a just a total mess. and what they're doing to donald trump is not only are they sending a message to him, you wil

ohio is a state where the house is led by republicans. where the senate is led by republicans.ust led by republicans, but there is a super majority of republicans leading the state senate there. and they also have a republican governor. this is not a state where people are opposed to republican officials. this looks to me like a red state that doesn't want to go as far as republicans are trying to take it. am i missing something? how do you square the fact that there are so many different republican elected officials. but they still can't get these ballot initiatives passed? >> i think there are two factors going on here. one is what michel alluded to, which is that the state is so heavily gerrymandered, that even if the republican party does when at state law elections, and presidential elections, the makeup in the legislature is so overwhelmingly republican. and so deeply red. because of the way that the lines are drawn. it doesn't represent even a republican state. it's a super right-wing legislature that they have. the other issue is that republicans don't want this to have

state. ohio is a crucial state. it used to be that you couldn't get to the white house without it, it has become more and more a redout the outcome tonight, how significant could it be? >> well, i think it can be very significant, not just because of ohio's historic place in general elections, but i think it is an additional opportunity for those who support reproductive rights, those who have been pushing back against the supreme court decision, and those that do care about the mobilization of democrats or even independents in advance of a general election, that this matters significantly. whether it's ohio, we could be talking about pennsylvania. michigan has had other ballot measures. there's another in mississippi. it's an opportunity to continue to mobilize the base. and to that point, any opportunity that you can to have sort of democrats and independents going out there and voting in line with the biden administration, that's always a plus. >> all right, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. >>> and those polls in ohio are closing in just a few moments, 7:30 p.m. eastern. we're going to be following tho

. >> buckeye state white house ohio, mike, you are on. >> very informational, appreciate you taking the time. i have a couple questions so i'll try to be quick. do you think the added about illegal immigration along with the way economy and inflation added an extra strain on medicare and medicaid prescription drug industry? i know you go to the hospital and your uninsured and a couple thousand dollars bill for 10000-dollar bill and lower income like i am, eventually places go up or somebody picks up the bill and i'm curious if this is adding strain on the system. >> probably not financially, people are not eligible for health insurance. immigrants who are here legally have a waiting period before they are eligible so people think if you go to the emergency room, he will get treated and everything taken care of. the emergency room law only requires true emergencies be dealt with, you have to admit you to the hospital so if you have no health insurance, you can only go, it is actually an emergency or if you are a pregnant person in labor, those are the two things covered so people with no

as of this taping, which is crazy democrats actually flipped some long-held republican house seats in states like ohioe also winning back governorships in states like maryland and massachusetts. americans voted to protect abortion rights in several states through ballot initiatives, including in kentucky expanded medicaid in south dakota, guaranteed a right to unionize in illinois, and legalized marijuana in missouri. at this point, i wouldn't be shocked if we found out voters in kansas passed a ballot initiative to make drag queen bingo night mandatory on all u.s. military bases. [ laughter ] which they should, because that would be fun as hell by far the most dramatic, and my favorite example of how poorly things went for republicans last night, is a shocking development in colorado's 3rd congressional district, where lauren boebert is, as of this taping, trailing her democratic opponent in a race absolutely no one thought would be competitive >> in colorado, hardline pro-trump republican on the ropes. congresswoman lauren boebert behind by a few thousand votes right now. >> this is lauren boebert's

duty and ignore the popular votes in their states and swing it to hillary. 2004 we had 32 house democrats and senator barbara boxer tried to throw out the ohiolegation, the ohio state tally to swing it to john kerry. so it's this asymmetry and unequal application of the law that bothers people. they're going after trump subordinates for supposedly saying i don't know. that's what james comey did 245 times under oath under devon newness's intelligence community. andrew ma cake, james clapper not only lied under oath they did admittedly so. they admitted they did without consequences. donald trump makes a phone call, and what happens? he's impeached. joe biden makes a phone call. he doesn't threaten to delay, he says he's going to cancel and he doesn't look for corruption he adds to at this time, he fuels it, nothing happens. he takes documents as vice-president and as senator for a decade and a half, three locations, nothing. he sends the fbi after donald trump. the american people, you know, they're sick of the conclusion of 2016 farce, they were sick of the russian disinformation laptop of 2020 and they can't even wait until 2024. and i thi

ohio. and democrats didn't just win, they overboard performed in a way that shocked the political world. this state has a senate seat and three housecrats have to defend, and so this is the person at the center of that fight. >> so, i think it's the voters of ohio. >> a double mvp in the buckeye state. >> because people are saying, well, they stood up for the right to choose, et cetera. but i think what they stood up for was democracy, in this case. but because what republicans were trying to do was basically sane, forget this majority rules stuff, you have to get a supermajority or we won't listen to you. and that has been a strategy for the republicans throughout -- gerrymandering, suppressing votes, and all that. in ohio, they basically said, we're not gonna do that. it doesn't necessarily mean all those people will support the abortion rights thing, but a lot of them may have said, i don't want you taking away my vote, making it less valuable. i think it was a very big statement. >> can i just go back to abby on that? people think that the ohio vote this week was about abortion. well, republicans are literally asking voters to

state issue. the best thing to think about is housing as a state issue different planning and zoning codes. rest of the risk of an earthquake in california is bigger than ohio. we like to give building codes we do not want things to happen in america it like that happened in turkey because they did not have building codes we should trust our buildings are resilient for the area they are built in. but too often when regulators decide they are going to be the one central planners decide to the market to get it wrong. they oppose one size fits all rules that do not accommodate the flexibility. prior to coming to congress i was in manufacturing. for me too get the supply chain right, for me too design and build something i need leadtime. some things we can turn around quick some things take a longer period by think about manufactured housing is the way to make it affordable it's it's manufactured on site of the planning and zoning for electrical and plumbing and whatnot and be done there and it's regulated by hud it normally. the department of energy dropping in something of a soundly hard to comply with on the timeline but it disrupts the regulatory certainty

states and swing it statt to. se 24 we had 32 house democrats, and senator barbara boxer tried to throw out the ohio delegation. ate tally to swing it to john kerry. >> so it's this asymmetrical thymmetry and the unequal application of law that bothers people. so they're going aftere. trump'e subordinates for supposedly saying, i don't know. sayi know.s comey did 245 nemes under oath in front of devin nunes. house intelligence committee. john brennan. coe. per cabs intell james clapper. they not only lied under oath, they didr oath admittedly so they admitted they did without consequences. donald trump makes a phone call. and what happens is impeach. joe biden makes a phone call. hen to delay. eate he says he's going to cancel. and he he doesn't look for fue corruption. >> he adds to it. he fuels it. itnothins. pen he takes documents as vice president and as senator forhing a decade and a half. three locations. nothing. he the fbi the fbi after donald trump, the american people, you know, they're sick of they're sick of the collusion of 2016 farce. off the russiano disinformation laptop of 2020, and they can't e

house. i wonder what you make of his voting record? he's listed as an unaffiliated voter in his home state of ohio.dn't vote in the '22 primaries. he acknowledged he didn't vote in most presidential elections. he describes himself as, quote, an american nationalist. what's your view of his politics? >> well, you know, where to start? we had a good, vigorous debate, which is why you have primaries, nancy, and i welcome the chance to contrast my long-standing commitment to the conservative agenda, and frankly, the fact that i believe in all humility, that i'm the most qualified and the most tested candidate in this race, not only with vivek who i've known several years but for everybody else on the stage. this country is in a lot of trouble. i think joe biden, from that disastrous withdrawal in afghanistan two years ago this week, to his policies that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, mortgage rates went up to a 22-year high yesterday, burdening families, their war on energy, the crisis at the border, the assault on our liberties, and now is the time, i believe, for leadership that knows how

house efforts to change military protocols for investigating sexual assault. geoff: by the debate over opioid settlement money has sparked a legal battle in ohio. >> every stategs differently and there are very few firemen's for states to publicly report how to use this money.

house efforts to change military protocols for investigating sexual assault. geoff: by the debate over opioid settlement money has sparked a legal battle in ohio. >> every state is doing things differently and there are very few firemen's for states to publicly report how to use this money. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the newshour. >> for 25 years, consumer cellular school has been to provide wireless service for people to connect. our team can help find one that fits you. >> the john s and james l knight foundation. >> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> welcome to the newshour. an historic day in washington. a federal grand jury has indicted former president donald trump on four counts on conspiracy to defraud the united states. geoff: it comes after more than a nine-month investigation. amna: this is the third time mr. trump has been indicted this year. he was first charged

ohio. and a warning for pro-life states across the nation. the group also blaming outside money for the defeat, even though both sides benefited from that spending from the white house, president biden slammed issue one as an attempt to weaken voters voices, saying ohioans spoke loud and clear. and tonight, democracy won. before polls open tuesday, nearly 700,000 ohioans voted early and soon after last year's supreme court decision overturned abortion rights protections. kansas voters rejected an anti abortion amendment in that state . since the high court's decision, more than a dozen states have passed near or total abortion bans. andrea. >> justin, thank you. we're following a developing story near austin, texas, where crews using helicopters and other heavy equipment are fighting a fast moving brush fire. people in the suburb of cedar park were ordered to evacuate. the flames have already consumed an apartment building and damaged two others. the hot and dry conditions are not helping the largest flame reported is 60ft in the air. >> so no. and that was when it was hitting the trees beside the apartment complex. the wind moved this fire quickly. >> the fire had

house republican investigation into the biden family. ohio voters are set to vote today on amendment that would make it more difficult to change the state's constitution. it would change the threshold to pass future ballot initiative to 60%, making it more difficult for voters to impelement upcoming election this coming november. ohio republican parties it is more than abortion, it is full government measure. >> ashley: and mike pence reaching needed 40000 donor threshold, the eighth to meet the criteria. former president trump has met criteria, but yet to confirm if he will be on the debate stage. mike pence is looking forward to substantive debate about issues important to the american people. hoping former president trump has courage to show up. first debate is this month, august 23rd, 9 p.m. eastern on fox. >> carley: turning to emotional testimony from the families of the 13 service members killed in the afghanistan withdrawal. they addressed president biden himself. >> when our leaders, including the account is of defense and commander-in-chief, call this evacuation a success, as if there should be celebration, it is like a knife in

housing markets. the great state of ohio.aces like that and a lot of your exsper tpertise has been i managing portfolios. >> yeah, thank you for having me this morning. yeah, that's about over the last 30 years, and 20 years of regional banking, and then i was a commercial investor in the real estate space. >> i call it kind of a perfect storm when you think about the post pandemic world, zero interest rates for a long time. we don't hear toxic assets, really, dan, like before the financial crisis but these loans got to be under priced for risks and especially after what the feds orchestrated. >> i think that's right. there's a difference between now and 2008. during that time you did talk about toxic assets, and an unknown bottomless pit of potential losses that needed to be sorted out. we are in a different time now, and there has been great discipline with the banks, and the reality is we have seen this flash freeze, if you will, in the banking space where rates had this breathtaking increase through, you know, which had t

rights groups this weekend after ohio voters overwhelmingly rejected a ballot proposal that would've made it easier to restrict abortion and that. stay a house iv state to vote in favor of abortion rights since roe was overturned. even more notable, abortion rights have won every time it's been put on a ballot since the supreme court decision. now, activists, they have their sights set on arizona as the next battleground to guarantee abortion rights. joining me now is a senior adviser -- jodi leggett. jody, thanks for joining us on this. how much has the ohio when energized voters and groups like yours? >> well, it has supercharged our movement. we know that arizona voters are practical folks. they've gone to the ballot before to protect important rights and what we saw in ohio is every time we put stuff like this on the ballot, voters are pretty smart, they know what's going on, we're really confident coming out. >> let's talk about the effort being made in arizona. you have until next july to collect around 400,000 valid signatures, about 5% of the states population. you've been quoted as saying it's a 40 to 50 million dollar project. where things

what we have learned, not only through ohio but other states, is that we have got to fight to make sure that one, the republicans do not feel empowered in the white houseat they can move forward to the institution, a national abortion ban. but, also work too -- federal, all the right to live in abortion. >> let's turn to the loss of you and your colleagues filed against -- you are said to become a league person in this case after congressman benny thompson had a drop out of it when he was named chair of the select panel. tasked with investigating the attack according to a court filing. now, trump has since been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges pertaining to his efforts to stay in power after he lost the 2020 presidential election. and another indictment could be on the way in georgia. how does this latest federal indictment help your case, if at all. and one other next steps on your lawsuit? >> reverend, all first, we are in this court of appeals, the district court of appeals. and ours is a civil suit. so this has nothing to do with the indictments and criminal lawsuits that are moving forward. we have done, this was in february, the naacp

states. groups in arizona announcing efforts to get a similar initiative on their ballot. joining me is nbc's ali vitali in columbus, ohio, nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander. and a founder of red, white and blue, that also opposed ballot issue 1. ali, more than 3 million ballots were cast, far exceeding everyone's expectations. >> it's a stunning number. we saw turnout already high for yesterday morning when we started out covering election day. to see more than 3 million ballots cast is a real sign of the momentum on the ground here. i spoke with one couple as they were walking out of a polling place yesterday, and i asked them, are you people that vote regularly here in every election. they said no, this one between media coverage and the issues that were specifically at play here had them coming out on a tuesday in august. again, a real sign of the continued energy on the ground. i think what's important, when you look at the results, though, the fact that 57% of ohioans came ought to say no to issue 1 and made it harder for them to pass an abortion protection amendment in their constitution in november is why i asked the

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state? >> i -- well, we did have five republicans vote against bringing this proposal to the august ballot, but that's five out of 67 ohio house or 62 supported it, five voted against it the and then the entire ohio senate voted against it. i think representative calendar, he is one who voted against bringing this to the voters in august, and i think i've seen some hesitation from some republicans, but they're not speaking out very much. they're just kind of letting this happen. >> probably concerned about getting primaried. i wish i had time to play it, but i don't. it was really wrenching testimony, melissa, from the women in texas who sued talking about nearly dying and being left infertile. why do you think that those arguments have no effect on people like samuel alito and on republicans and states like ohio and mississippi. >> samuel alito is going to samuel alito, joy. those kinds of cases are going to have important effects in places like texas. now in texas after the litigation, doctors know that they can prescribe abortion and can instruct an abortion in circumstances that are truly exigent without having to deal wit

ohio they're still coming down that is not stopped. stuart: byron donalds republican from the great state of florida, thank you for joining us. see you soon we hope. the white houseits requirements for journalist to be eligible for press passes. ashley is back and i'm going to say good morning. how many people lost their pass. ashley: 442 reporters from about 1400 to 900 have lost the credential since the white house press office change the rules for the renewal of the hard policies, reporters must show they have full-time implement with an organization whose principal business news dissemination, they must also have a physical address in the washington, d.c. area and must demonstrate them access to the white house campus once during the six-month for worker proof of employment within the last three months to cover the white house. journalist to do not obtain a hard pass can apply for a day pass, the white house defending the tougher rules saying we think this demonstrates with thoughtful and thorough process that preserves robust media access to campus for everyone who needs it whether that be a hard pass or a day pass. it sounds like a disneyland, journalist mu

of voters and passed legislation in the house that was stalled at the senate but i want to say this. when the dobbs decision was made, ohio was one of the stateshat had a ten-year-old rape victim who had to go to indiana to access health care and access an abortion. when we think about issues around our state, this election was critical to helping people make that decision, and i think it's also important to point out that this was a nonpartisan, if you will, result. democrats and republicans alike believe in protecting the one person, one vote simple majority rule so despite what polls across the nation may say as it relates to republican versus democrats, when it came to this issue of issue 1, we were able to bring both democrats and republicans together and that demonstrates what happens when the people come together, the votes are successful and the country succeeds. >> now, we should note that abortion law you noted there is on hold. it's being reviewed by your state supreme court. congresswoman shontel brown, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >>> we'll have more on what it means on a national level when we return. not

states. joining us now is secretary julian castro, former housing and urban development secretary under president obama and 2020 democratic presidential candidate and former ohiontial candidate, both msnbc political analysts. so, john, let me start with you. this was a strong statement from trump's second in command. what do you make of pence separating himself from trump here? >> it is about time, don't you think? it is about time that he began to say something. and, but, look, you know, this is extremely serious. you know, one of the most important cornerstones of american democracy is the ability to have the transfer of power. and what is at question here is did he do everything he could to prevent the transfer of power. and that will be something that will have to be decided through the courts. one thing that strikes me, jose, is all these charges mount and there is probably another one coming, another indictment coming. is it conceivable that at some point donald trump will try to cut a deal? that he'll say enough is enough and have an excuse and make his case, everybody was against me, i don't know. i'm not saying that's going to happen. but i'm saying t

duty and ignore the popularr titution their state and swing it to hillary. 24 we had 32 house democrats the and. senator barbara boxer tried to throw out the ohiodelegation, the ohio statet to tally to swing it to john kerry. >> so it's this asymmetricalt' asymmetry and the unequas l of the law that bothers people. so they're going after trump's t subordinates for supposedly saying, i don't know. that's what james come y did 245 times under oath in front ofs in devin nunes, his intelligence committee. cor brennan, andrew mccabe, james clapper. they not only lied under oath, they did admittedl r oathy so they admitted they did without consequences. >> donald trump, a phone call. and what happens is impeach doen joe biden makes a phone call. he doesn't threaten to delay. 'the says he's going to cancel and he he doesn't look for corruption corrupt, adds to it.n >> he fuels it. nothing happens. he takes documents as vice president and as senator for a decade. nt and ar and a half.er three locations. nothing. trdsends the fbi after donalald trump, the american people, you know, they're sick of they're sick of the collusiothen 201016 farce. they were

in ohio overwhelmingly reject a measure that would have made it harder to amend that state's constitution. what that could mean for the fight over abortion rights this november. plus 2024 white house hopeful nikki haley criticized a member of her own party, republican senator tomma tuberville and his military black aid. we'll take a look at haley's comments. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back. k on sports and weather when we come right back my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. (christina) wanna know the secret ingredient to running my business? for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. (tina) her. (christina) being all over, all at once. (tina) all the time. (christina) but my old network wasn't cutting it. and that's not good for baking. or judging. or writing. so, we switched to verizon, the network businesses rely on. with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm

states are prosecutor can be removed for "conduct or judicial to the administration of justice which brings the office into disrepute"? and most recently, ohio congressman jim jordan, chair of the houseciary committee, the u.s. congress, announcing he is opening an inquiry into willis, questioning whether she had collaborated with the biden administration in targeting any federal funding her office received. so she will be taking on these investigations at the same time she is bringing this rico conspiracy case against the 19, including the former president. >> of course you have those threats which are illegal and administrative threats but also the other threats we also know about, the physical threats, the intimidation of violence which is a whole other story. it and those two political threats, you would like to not even take the jim jordan threat seriously. he is threatening to subpoena her. what we know is that is not going to go anywhere. she is under no obligation to respond. we also know to assert next dent, trump possibly trying to protect himself, implicated in some of these overall conspiracy, not the actual charges that have been filed but in terms of his overall involve

ohio would get passed and it was crushed. these are the same people in 2022 that said kevin mccarthy would have a majority in the house. here's a reality. when i crisscross the stater i'm in new hampshire or iowa, california, alabama, people come up to me and they say, hey, you're right, he is running to stay out of prison. so i'm not questioning his front-runner status, but what i am saying is that many people don't want to see donald trump or joe biden be the nominees. and people are looking for something different. and guess what? if they want to have these things happen, if those people want to see something different, i need them to go to hurdforamerica.com, help me get on the debate stage. all i need is $1 donation to make sure i hit those thresholds. >> in order to get on that stage in two weeks, you need to hit a polling threshold, a donor threshold, $40,000, and you need to sign the rnc debate pledge. you think you're going to hit the first two? >> that's correct. i can say all of jake tapper's friends watching tv helped put me -- help me put that $40,000 threshold by going to hurdforamerica.com. look, jake, i said it before, i'm not going to lie to get a

ohio. let's talk about this. voters will decide whether they can still amend the state constitution with just a simple majority. that's the way it's been since fillmore's presidency. buthrepublican state houseants to changthat by requiring amendments to get 60% of the vote. instead 50% plus one of the vote. why now? one reason is acss to abortion. that's one. it's not on the ballot today, but it will be in november. and raising ththreshold will make it harder to pass an abortion rights amendment. still some republicans say this is about protecting the state from special interests. but, if you think summertime special election in an off year with no candidates on the ballot would have a low voter turnout, look at these lines. more than half million ohioans have cast early ballots. john, i give this back to you. this is about not just the special interest but abortion. your view on what we're watching in ohio. >> this is about direct democracy. this is about representative democracy. this is about majoritarian democracy. let's take a step back. in the redistricting system that the republicans overrode, there was a ballot initiative passed just a few years ago enshrined redistricting system th

house judiciary -- ohio republican jim jordan, launched a probe into george's trump prosecution, asking fulton county district attorney fani willis to turn over all records relating to the case. shortly thereafter, republican state senator in georgia also moved to impeach willis. this comes as willis faces a flurry of racist attacks and online abuse, after trump has spent weeks attacking her. how concerned are you about the estimated rhetoric, as well as the effort of some republican lawmakers to use their powers of elected office to try and sabotage this case? >> i'm very concerned about the escalating rhetoric, and i am not concerned about chairman jim jordan at all. he has proven himself to be reckless. he can't get out of his own way in our judiciary committee. i don't worry about him at all, but i do worry about the possibility and the reality of violence. of inciting violence. the former president and those who have been complicit in his lies, in his attempt to claim and grab power against the constitution, against the rule of law, is very, very serious, and very dangerous. i think about john -- who -- said this is a test of our citizenship. look at these mugshots. it is staggering. it is heartbreaking, re

ohio were tampered with and that president bush was selected, not elected, and not to mention former presidents of the united states and secretary of state, hilary clinton, jimmy carter, and a whole slew of houseocrats who repeatedly led the nation to believe, lied to the nation that they said russia selected donald trump as president, that the election was completely illegitimate, all of that was allowed to pass, but yet once again we see a criminalization when it comes to donald trump. and i think, guys, you're gonna have all kinds of analysts on here diving into the weeds on the electoral count act, on the presidential records act, on all kinds of interpretation of the law. but i hope you don't lose the forrest for the trees that this is dangerously badly eroding public trust in the fairness of the law and the fairness of the department of justice and in our institutions. and that is someone who is out on the ground talking to voters every day and every week, is what i'm seeing -- >> to that point, do you feel like a president who lost an election, lying repeatedly about the vote to his supporters, and then leading and helping attempt to enact a scheme to overturn an election he lost, that

ohio, distinguished visiting fellow at the american in price institute --american enterprise institute. his career spans three decades including three presidential administrations and two terms in the united states senate and six terms in the united states house of representatives. thank you, senator portman, for being with us. [applause] to senator portman's right is cecilia rouse, who previously served as chair of the council of economic advisers between 2021 and 2023. before that she was dean of the princeton school of public and international affairs. the drumroll is that we are so proud she has recently been named president of the brookings institution, a role she will assume in 2024, i think. [applause] and to cecilia's right is adena friedman. she is chair and ceo of nasdaq. adena brings more than 20 years of industry leadership and expertise and is credited with contributions to shape nasdaq's strategic transfer mission to a leading company with operations on six continents. thank you so much, adena, for being here. [applause] and all the way over we are joined by greg ip, the chief economics commentator and deputy economics editor for "the wall street journal," and will lead our discussion. thank you, greg, for being here. [applause]

ohio, a state that comfortably went for donald trump. it's been trending red. kansas and kentucky, you kidding me? michigan, a state that republicans before '22, republicans had control of the legislature. the houseate. they lost it in '22, as well as the governorship. they were routed. then we talk about wisconsin a lot. >> yup. >> the race for the supreme court that republicans were saying, conseratives were saying was one of the most important in their lifetime. they got crushed. they got crushed because the issue was, well, the fact that republicans had an 1849 abortion law. a total ban that they kept on the books, even when they were warned to moderate it, they didn't do it. >> rocket fuel. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," former president trump says he won't be signing the loyalty pledge that's required to participate in the first gop primary debate. we'll show you his explanation for that. wasn't he -- anyhow -- >> yeah. >>> plus, 49 years ago, gerald ford took office and attempted to heal the wounds of watergate and help a reeling nation move on. but as donald trump faces multiple trials, would ford's approach still work today? we tackle that question with presidential historian, next on

house is doing to remind voters of the benefits of the landmark infrastructure bill. >>> plus, a special election in ohio tomorrow could have a major impact on the issue of abortion in the state, and serve as a test case for the issue across the country. we'll explain. >>> also ahead, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu appears to be walking back some of his original plans to overhaul the country's justice system. >> again. >> what he is saying about those changes. >>> and a wild scene on the mlb base path over the weekend, that saw a baseball game turn into a prized fight. >> anderson is down! anderson is down! >> you're watching "morning joe." >> anderson is down! >> we'll be right back. ♪♪ with fastsigns, create striking custom visuals that inspire pride district-wide. ♪♪ fastsigns. make your statement. i've struggled with generalized myasthenia gravis. but the picture started changing when i started on vyvgart. vyvgart is for adults with generalized myasthenia gravis who are anti-achr antibody positive. in a clinical trial, vyvgart significantly improved most participants' ability to do daily activities when added to their current gmg treatment. most participants ta