. >> ohuru is swa hilly for freedom.nd gene, i was reading that book, that marvelous treatise on africa when i came for the interview. the role of a communications officer was -- was was not even written. so they -- they had a three-pain -- they told me to read from this part where kirk and spark and bones, would i read the role of spock. i looked at it and said, i hadn't even been given the site, i thought, yeah. i said tell me about the character. they said no nonsense. not a sense of humor. a brilliant mind and y don'ted that for uhura, what became uhura. they were very happy with it, asked me to wait. gene asked me to go to lunch. he wanted to talk about the character. by the way, you have the role. and -- tavis: gene roddenberry. >> the great bird of the gal laxy. tavis: that's right. >> he said, you know, nichelle, ask you to talk to you about this -- because i really am impressed with this word 0 hur are you. he said -- hurrah. he said i like to do something with your character. i blythely said, why don't you do a