it's called oib, are you familiar with it? you might want to include it in the playbook if it's not already there. oib is a program for older individuals who are blind. so we find that many older individuals aren't part of the department of rehab and they're wondering how can i get help when i'm not a client at the department? they can do so with training for devices and computers at the lighthouse under the program for older individuals who are blind. if you don't know about it, i invite you to call our access technology group, actually our rehabilitation group and they'll be able to tell you about that. >> yeah, great, i didn't know about it. thank you for the recommendation. >> co-chair senhaux: council member orkid sassouni? [inaudible] >> thank you, that's a great idea. advocacy and referral center -- referral agency, got you, thank you. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you council member orkid sassouni. co-chair, blacksten? >> co-chair blacksten: i have to second what my colleague kate williams said, you've really done a treme

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