that is what a lot of the xip, oih, other energy related etf's are, trading vehicles. have to know when you are doing to get in at the right time and exit. that is why we built this, to mitigate the downside but capture the upside associated with energy demand. scarlet: how much downside do you see in oil prices right now? obviously, oil has gone through an interesting patch lately, lots of talk that saudi arabia and russia, opec and non-opec members will be teaming up to increase production once again. toby: the fact that saudi is talking about increasing production is actually a healthy sign. the reason that's happening, you have declines that took place in venezuela, other areas where they are needing to back fill the loss. we look at it holistically. we will go about it in a way, when energy prices come off, we are going to have a benefit with the consumers and such. the price range, it will stay north of 50. when i say it, i'm talking about brent crude, not wti. but that is a pretty general range. eric: and quickly, mlp etf's. you have a mutual fund for mlp's. the