despised, the most unpopular, and you know what, the second most critical appraisals of me was not the oj simpson case, it was when i represented bill clinton, because a lot of people said, what a disgraceful thing, you representing the most horrible president in terms of his personal life, and what he did in the oval office, i got such horrible accusations, for helping bill clinton, so you know, again, the shoe has to fit comfortably on both feet. >> i'd like to -- >> i've got to say, i would not compare shranski and donald trump. >> i'd like to, i'd like to go to this issue of not guilt by accusation, but something that troubles me, which is guilt by association. just because you represent the president of the united states, should not make you as it has professor dershowitz, persona non grata in certain circles, we all have a right to be heard, we all have a right to be defended in court, we all have a right to associate with the policies of a president, who we may find odious. a lot of people had it in for bill clinton. a lot of people had it in for barack obama. being on the side of one of t