i'm joined by my guess. joshua landis in oklahoma city. he is the director of the center of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma in rancho mirage. we have scott ritter. he is a former intelligence officer and united nations weapons inspector. and here in moscow we have maxine to talk. he is director of the center for advanced american studies at moscow state university of international relations. i gentleman cross talk rules and effect. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate joshua, let me go to you 1st in oklahoma city. i mean, in the aftermath of this fiasco and leaving afghanistan, which i fully supported, i've been saying that for 19 years. but, you know, you see all this finger pointing who is at fault here. but my question is, and no one really in the mainstream wants to talk about it, is that how did we get into such a mess in the 1st place? nobody wants to be talk about who is responsible. so i want to ask all 3 of you about, will anyone be held account to account? and then i want to talk a

we need help. >> 168 people died in oklahoma city.hat got landed on my heart. >> reporter: while searching the rubble, melville noticed something. >> i could see first hand that although we have many really terrific civilian dog handlers, i saw that for the first two days, the firefighters, meaning the task force, stood back and wondered what are we going to do with these civilians? >> reporter: and so she returned home to california with a plan. start a non-profit, the national disaster search dog foundation that would do something that hadn't been done before. train firefighters and dogs together. free of charge. the kicker -- she'd get most of the kids from rescue shelters. >> looking for a dog that has high drive that doesn't make a good pet. they're going to run on the rubble, they're going to everything just to get that reward. >> reporter: jason vasquez is a fire captain. he says search dogs use their keen noses and outsized enthusiasm to find humans and human remains in disasters. >> they use 100% smell. their nose is 100% wor

i used to work in oklahoma city attacked and the university of oklahoma. i remember when companies would come in, people would say these are great jobs we talked up a lot because oklahoma city is not expensive. as if this is the kind of barometer for economic growth. this is how the fast food practices really mushroomed. low wages, inconsistent scheduling, sexual harassment, no paid sick leave, workers are expendable. this is the moment we are contending with it. >> we are running short on time. for any questions please get them, please come up to the microphone if you have a question. i have one last question retaining my right for the last question. hi. >> actually i was going over in my mind what question to ask what. >> hi daniel how are you? i thought that was you. >> i'm glad you got to the last point i was going to come to that i feel wages and i grew up in the south mcdonald's was my first job, my brother's first job, my nephew's first job. when they moved to los angeles i'm supporting a family with a job from mcdonald's. the fight for 15 would've

we need help. >> 168 people died en in oklahoma city.errific civilian dog handlers, i saw that for the first two days the firefighters, meaning the task force, stood back and wondered, what are we going to do with these civilians? >> reporter: and so she returned home to california with a plan: start a non-profit, the national disaster search dog foundation, that would do something that hadn't been done before: train firefighters and dogs together, free of charge. the kicker? she would get most of the dogs from rescue shelters. >> you're looking for a dog with high drive, that really doesn't make a good pet. they're going to do everything, run on the rubble, to get that toy and reward. >> reporter: jason vasquez is an l.a. fire captain, and he says search dogs use their keen noses and out-sized enthusiasm to find humans and human remains in disasters. [barking] >> yeah! good job! >> they use their sight to get over the rubble, but their nose is 100% working, and that's how they find somebody. >> reporter: there are a number of folks out

next is oklahoma city, oklahoma on our support line. otis, hello. caller: how are you doing? i definitely support the rich paying their fair amount of taxes. in addition to that, what is so crazy about it is how they squandered trillions of dollars for 20 years on a war over there in afghanistan, but they have issues with helping the average person now. they have no credibility. they are playing games with people's lives, with all of this guessing whether the rich pay more -- absolutely the rich should pay more. they even understand that. in order to do that we have to raise taxes on them. like i say, i agree we are going back to the -- i think it is 1948, i believe. taxes on the rich was about 90%, wasn't it? if i'm correct? host: i'm not sure. what makes you think it would work this time around? what makes you think there is a benefit to raising taxes? caller: here is what it do. it would take the pressure off of people, the average working poor that need a opportunity to at least make a decent, respectable living. no one said we want to live like we have 10 different rooms

. >> reporter: after a truck bomb leveled the federal building in oklahoma city in 1995, downey led therch for survivors. and when it came to saving lives, he had a nickname as big as his reputation. >> someone said oh, yeah, you sit next to god on the way in. i said who's god? oh, yeah, they refer to your dad that way sometimes. wow, that's pretty impressive. they saw how we operated at fires, conducted himself at emergencies, and he just was always in charge. >> reporter: so the downey brothers knew where their father would be that day. >> he fought right here on west street because that's where we found his car. >> reporter: and they knew he wouldn't leave, no matter what. >> he had that mentality. he wasn't leaving until he could save as many people as possible. >> reporter: even as the towers burned above him, even as he knew exactly what could happen. were you angry when you found out he wasn't coming home? >> maybe a little angry at first. but then as it went on, more proud that you can give your life. you talk about it all the time, and not many people do that, consciously give

other areas will be possible 2 to 3 inches there's that rain this morning the other story today, oklahoma city 98. dallas, 100. san antonio, 101 t and new england. it is just plain hot in many areas of the south >> week ahead forecast coming up all of that heavy rain is heading to the east coast. we'll tell you when it will arrive shortly >>> winny the pooh's house now lifted on air b&b. in the forest that inspired the hundred acre wood. the home inspired by the illustrator who has been drawing winnie only available for residents of the uk >>> a set back for democrats with a path way to citizenship and why pluresident trump is targeting mitch mcconnell. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. does your vitamin c last twenty-four hours? only nature's bounty does. immune twenty-four hour plus has longer lasting vitamin c. plus, herbal and other immune superstars. only from nature's bounty. still fresh unstopables in-wash scent aboosterr immune superstars. downy unstopables >>> leading the news, a riff between top republicans may result in an all-out war president trump is looking for a cand

host: we will hear from oklahoma city next, barbara on the independent line. caller: hi, i have a question and a comment. i want to ask, did you know that trump -- all the time? do you know that? guest: i could not hear you. host: barbara, can you repeat that? caller: do you know that trump hires illegals? host: i do not know if you want to respond. guest: that might be. i do not know about when he has been in the private sector. host: let's hear from tennessee on the republican line, floyd. caller: two farmers got their tax bills and they are whining about how the property tax was. they have adult kids, and i asked -- so somebody else owned the property, paid the taxes and educated your kids. local tax pays our law enforcement and education system . and when rich people do not want to pay taxes, the community suffers. that's an anecdote for you. guest: thank you. nobody doubts, of course, taxes exist and always will. one, from a policy standpoint, what is the appropriate level to be able to pay for the services we all need? and so there is nobody that will re

joe in oklahoma city, democrat. caller: thanks so much for taking my comment. it's been a great broad-spectrum show today. just wanted to touch on the previous caller who said something about $780 billion for illegal aliens. i have one suggestion -- turn off am radio because that's just swill merchants and grievance and hate selling. i wanted to touch on the climate discussion that was on earlier when heather was asked who funds you? i forget -- can we forget what she said and just know that it is big oil? her whole strategy, these are the same people calling it a hoax 10 years ago. i think we all know that climate change is absolutely wreaking havoc all over the world. it is costing billions and billions of dollars. these weather events that they say, this is one in 500 years, we are having those every year now. so we already know where she is getting her money, despite her name sounding like maybe she worked in adult film at one point. host: we are going to cut the comments like that. if you missed the discussion, heather reames joined us from citizens for re

gunshots ring out in a quiet neighborhood in edmond, oklahoma, a wealthy suburb of oklahoma city. >>11. >> my son's been shot in the front yard. he got no pulse. >> reporter: 45-year-old paul howell gunned down in his family's driveway, the victim of a carjacking. his gmc suburban a hot commodity for car thieves. >> the victim's sister was the only eyewitness. >> megan tobey described the shooter as a young black man wearing a red bandana, a white shirt, and a stocking cap or skullcap. she was not able to identify the shooter's face because it was covered. >> two days after the howell murder, the police stumbled upon the suburban parked at a grocery store. >> reporter: the store was just blocks away from a chop shop where police learned a young man by the name of liddle king had offered to sell a suburban. >> you mention ladell king, i think car thefts. he was involved in car thefts all around the metro area. >> ladell was interviewed by the lead detectives in this case. he told the police that on the night of the crime, a guy named chris jordan comes to his apartment. a few minutes

warren or $271.00. ghana, stan wars, in terms of us, military death or 276. pearl harbors, or 3945, oklahoma city bombing, or 331390 olympic park. bombings, or 220000 927, boston marathon bombings or 221911. could you imagine? if we actually treated this pandemic right now, like it was our government causing 221911. could you fathom the number of countries, songs that would result in the number of vigils, the number of ribbons on the, on, on, on the back of people's trucks. next to a sticker of calvin pestering on the lakers logo, it would be millions are rolling a lead bags are responsible for live in vietnam wars worth of debt. americans during this pandemic and they're acting like china. 6 is the problem is there is the ass. and on top of that, you have childish brain dead outlets like the new york times reporting fake news. when it comes to coven, and i mean news they admitted was fake. they themselves, for example, the medicine i ever met him, hasn't shown promise and read and go over. yes. should be tested more. absolutely. should we get it by eating horse p warming pills? no, probably not.

we have seen that so far could the tour we had to postpone twice was taking us to places like oklahoma citysas city. there was a lot of -- some of the not surprisingly, some of the business is being formed are around the connection to that. logistics because of walmart's presence in northwest arkansas. bag checked because that is a major part of what st. louis is doing. monsanto being headquartered there for many years. we are seeing in this next-generation building on the expertise and networks in those cities to disrupt some of those incumbents and we will see what happens in terms of when we announce those winners. you can expect some of them will be tied into what is special about those places and what advances those places if more venture capitalists do focus on other parts of the country and if entrepreneurs who left because they sense there is no opportunity to return and if graduates stay there, you will see more of these cities rise up. you will see more novation happening all over the country. frankly for all investors out there, when i talk about this, part of this is almost a po

john hansen, the assistant fire chief in oklahoma city reminded us earlier that in oklahoma city theon for seven days before they were called to a halt and they had a full accounting of all the people that were missing, and as horrendous as oklahoma city was, it will pale in comparison probably in terms of the number of people who were in the world trade center when those two buildings came down, to say nothing of that 40-story building that came down later, although, that area had been evacuated by that time. nbc's maria shriver has been looking at those on the flights, most for los angeles, although one for san francisco. maria, what can you tell us? >> as you mentioned, all four of the hijacked planes were headed to california, one to san francisco and three to los angeles. the news that came to california when people heard those flights were coming here, brought this city almost 3,000 miles away from the world trade center to almost a complete standstill. los angeles was one of the first airports in the country to get the early "morning call" to close down. >> los angeles interna

this is what timothy mcveigh had as his motivations for murdering 168 americans in oklahoma city, includingay from how deep the rootedness of white supremacist violence was in this country. we listened to what i believe are principled civil libertarian objections against an expensive category of criminalized association. treating people who might have believed as mcveigh did, odious as i believe that is, but ultimately not committing acts of violence, treating them as, essentially, indistinct from mcveigh was absolutely intolerable, as it always should have been, to the american political elites, but that intolerability did not extend to muslims. and there it was easy, after 9/11, to construct an apparatus fueled by things like the patriot act, that expanded enormous categories of criminal association, known as material support for terrorism, authorized widespread surveillance, that certainly would not be focused simply even on american muslims, as disgusting as it was that it was focused on them primarily. but, ultimately, all of these things that both parties, that the leaders of the secu

family is from here in oklahoma so it's a virtual homecoming the second part of the state around oklahoma city area by some of those places but i do hope we will get to have you visit your person at some time i can't tell you what a powerful experience the progress. i wish you the best and i encourage you all to get a copy once again we people can also go back if you haven't read white rage or "one person, no vote", spend some time with these books and go out and do the books of thank you and take care, everybody and we will see you soon. ♪♪ >> weakens on c-span2 are an intellectual piece of us has a history key documents american stories and sunday's book tv brings the latest in nonfiction books and authors. funding for c-span tube runs from these television companies and more including comcast. >> you think it's just the community center? way more than that. >> comcast partnering with 1000 community centers to create wi-fi enabled this to students from low income families can get the tools they need to be ready for anything. ♪♪ >> comcast support c-span2 is a public service. >> c-spanshop.or

my will tell everybody your family is right here from oklahoma a virtual homecoming around the oklahoma city but i do hope that at some point we can get you to visit here in person and i cannot tell you what a powerful experience the book was a wish you the best. i encourage all of you to get a copy and read the book if you have not read white rage or one person know vote spent some time and go out and do the work. thank you and take care and we will see you soon. >> in february 2020 there was a lot of focus first on the diamond princess cruise ship off the coast of japan and there was 500 or 600 passengers on the ship a lot of elderly americans said there is a big fight of what to do and how to get them home. at the time there were 360,000 people on cruise ships around the world it was constantly in the headlines the white house situation room constantly talking about this. but the president was getting nervous about sending these people back to the united states if they were infected so at one point he was in a meeting in a situation room and said we are not bringing them back. i don't wan

more of the central part of the state around the oklahoma city area and some of those places but i hope that at some point we will get you to visit here in person and i can't tell you what a powerful experience book was and i wish you the best with. i encourage all you guys to get a copy i would encourage all of you guys to get a copy and once again read the book and go back, if you haven't read white rage or one person, one vote, spend some time with these books and go out and do the work. so thank you, professor anderson, and take care everybody, , and we will see you very soon. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> up next on booktv "after words" ben shapiro, podcast host an editor america's of the daily wire and since the progressive left is pushing an authoritarian agenda in america. he's interviewed by nationally syndicated radio talk show host eric metaxas. "after words" is a weekly interview program with relevant guest host interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> host: i have the privilege and the joy of any doing

me now is someone who knows this very well, the co-executive director of trust women clinic in oklahoma citynks for being here. appreciate your time. you're one of only four abortion providers in oklahoma as we understand it. and now you're dealing with this overflow from texas. in response to the texas law, what are you seeing at your clinic? >> right now, our clinics are trying to see about twice as many patients that they normally do. keep in mind, most of these people are calling from cities that have more clinics than the entire state of oklahoma. it's very, very tragic, very difficult to get an appointment, and it's forcing people to delay further and further their care. >> talk to me about that delay, because it's not just the delay of people coming in from texas, it also -- is that also causing a delay for people in oklahoma as well? how maxed out are you and what are you hearing from people? >> folks are calling us confused, scared, calling a lot of clinics in all of the surrounding states. thankfully, oklahoma doesn't have an in-person visit environment, so we have a few lower rest

more of the central part of the state around the oklahoma city area and some of those places but i hope that at some point we will get you to visit here in person and i can't tell you what a powerful experience book was and i wish you the best with. i encourage all you guys to get a copy and read the book and go back. if you haven't read white rage or one person, one vote, spend some time with these books and go out and do the

. >> oklahoma city's largest hospitals have no icu beds available. in california, surge protocols are in effect after having less than 10% of adult icu beds available for three straight days. pediatric hospitalizations are at the highest point since the pandemic began. in alabama, state officials say 13,000 cases were reported in schools over the last two weeks. in texas, there were 1200 73 reported cases of covid-19 in the first week of classes. last week, there were more than 27,000 new cases among public school students. >> as long as we have widespread coronavirus cases in the community, we will see more kids getting sick, more kids getting infected. kate: to mark 20 years since 9/11, president biden and first lady jill biden will travel to all three states of the terror attack. they will join barack obama and michelle obama the bidens will also visit the site of the united 93 crash in pennsylvania. that flight was headed to san francisco from new jersey. george w. bush will provide remarks there. vice president kamala harris will also be there a

fbi could investigate the world trade center bombing and quickly solve it and solve the case in oklahoma city and bring the subject and the perpetrators to justice but that doesn't help. it's good for deterrence but the nation, congress, everybody wanted the agencies to get to the left side of the terrorist attack try to prevent it and have been extremely successful in doing that. most of it has been the global war on terrorism under the bush administration which continued until fairly recently and that was about going upstream and finding terrorist in places outside our borders where conspiracies are being plotted and training in etc.. we really diminished the capacity of al qaeda, isis, international terrorist organizations to project themselves into the united states except by the lone wolf, the inspired and perhaps mentally disturbed individuals who grab onto that ideology and grab some readily accessible rental car or truck and an ak-47 and conduct a terrorist attack and they are inspired overseas but that's been the limit to international terrorist activity in the united states. >> is d

we are in the central part of the state around oklahoma city area. i do hope at some point we will get to have you visit in person and i can't tell you what a great experience this book was and i wish you the best with it but i encourage all of you guys to get a copy of this book and if you have a red white rage spend some time with these books and go out and do the work. so thank you and take care everybody and we'll see you very soon.

it was, bam, seattle oklahoma city averages 13 and they had none because it was a rainy, wet central more -- >> portland, oregon. >> show us the answer. boom five days in portland. dallas, 8 days they average 20. so they, again, way below. and finally, this is your last chance, boise versus san antonio. who had more 100 plus degree days >> san antonio >> san antonio, show us the answer >> texas >> oh, you're wrong. boise. >> way wrong >> 18 days >> team boise. >> twice as many days as they normally would have whereas san antonio normally has 1, they only had three days. again, big effects of climate change johnny, tell them what they've . >>> our forecast is winner today. we're going to see better air quality this afternoon, and our temperature's coming down a few degrees. fall begins at 12:21. then as we go through the forecast, still feels like summer the rest of the week. our inland areas in the low to mid-90s. a little cooler for the weekend with our inland areas in the mid-80s. san francisco seeing the fog back this morning, but it does quickly clear out. we're headed towards 70

some storms in the middle parts of the country, omaha to oklahoma city. atlantic, going to brush bermuda with some waves. and there is victor out in the african coast and that will not hit anything when it comes to land. it will be a fish storm in the middle. now back here to the waves that will be in bermuda, could be 30 to 40 feet, and even this weekend, in the northeast or all along the east coast, waves could be 5 to 10 feet. you have to be very careful with the kids and yourself this weekend, because the rip currents will be very, very high. brianna? >> i am looking at the names, ana and then victor. so it is, like, our afternoon anchor lineup, right? chad, but not going to hit anything. not going to do any damage. they're lovely people we work with. chad myers, thank you. >> afternoon anchor lineup not going to do any damage. thank you for clarifying that. >>> florida manu gene bossy just achieved legend status. the army veteran utilized basic training and used a trash can to capture a six foot alligator who was loitering in his neighbor's front yar

after the oklahoma city bombing in 1995, neil's girlfriend showed up at dantonio's house. >> and sheinancially. so at this point -- >> neil's girlfriend told you that she thought neil had bank rolled the oklahoma city bombing? >> yes. >> dr. dantonio even called a fbi hotline to report neil. there's no ind case -- indication the bureau found any link between neil and the bombing. the fbi did eventually contact dantonio when they were investigating mcneice for something else. mcneice found himself a defendant in a federal wire tapping case, accused of extorting money from a man who'd been his friend. mcneice ultimately pleaded guilty to receiving the proceeds of extortion and was sentenced to two years probation. why was any of this relevant in the murder trial of pam phillips? because, says dr. dantonio, his frightening acquaintance, neil mcneice, had a history of bad blood with none other than gary triano. it started, the doctor says, after mcneice and triano agreed to purchase an item together at a charity auction. >> gary didn't have any money to pay, so neil paid and he was suppo

columbine steve kerr committed by two young white men and six years before that the bombing of oklahoma cityhorrific events before 9/11, it might have been okay to consider the possibility, but it didn't exist. when you say that i was one of the few voices at that time to speak out against this and to slow the rush to war, that is not -- that's -- that is not an understatement in the sense that there was nobody allowed on tv that had a dissenting voice, and there was barbara lee, the only member of congress to vote against the invasion of afghanistan, and myself and a few others. but most democrats, if you remember, 29 democratic senators voted in favor of giving bush the war powers for iraq, and all the democrats in the senate and the house with the exception of barbara lee voted in favor of the invasion of afghanistan. >> i do remember that. in fact, for two or three years they kept supporting the war in walk. when i ran for president, i was one of maybe two or three candidates out of nine that was against the war as late as 2004. but picking up from the last question, michael, could you d

more of the central part of the state around the oklahoma city area and some of those places but i hope that at some point we will get you to visit here in person and i can't tell you what a powerful experience book was and i wish you the best with. i encourage all you guys to get a copy and read the book and go back. if you haven't read white rage or one person, one vote, spend some time with these books and go out and do the some facebook tv brings the latest in nonfiction books and authors, television for serious readers. learn, discover, explore weekend on c-span2. ♪♪ >> next on book tvs "afterwards", ben shapiro podcast host and editor america of the day required progressive left is pushing an agenda and america interviewed by ashley syndicated radio talkshow host, eric metaxas. "afterwards" is a weekly interview program, interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> the joy of interviewing ben shapiro about his new book called the auditory authoritarian moment. this strikes me as not unimportant. your title "the authoritarian moment" strikes me as chilling, why i

oklahoma city, philadelphia, fargo, north dakota, pittsburgh, omaha, buffalo and baltimore and overalle homes are coming on the market to help investors get back on. >> a lot of them i'm guessing the median price of a home or a flipped home in those kinds of metros is lower than the national average. >> reporter: probably because those are lower priced markets and seeing the gains and the demand because we have first time buyers, people moving because they have that flexibility now. so flipping in lower priced markets is going to result in bigger profits, for sure you don't see san francisco or l.a. or new york city on the lists. >> that's kind of my thing how risky is it for people to flip at the top of the market if price gains are slowing as you said they are in many markets? >> reporter: the gains are slowing but remember we are up around 18% in price gains from a year ago so even if it's 5% you make some money but watch mortgage rates higher the fewer buyers out there and tougher to flip for a profit. >> you said basically the returns are down from 37% to what 35-ish 34-ish >> 33%

reporter: oklahoma city's four largest hospitals have no icu beds available. in california, surge protocols are in effect in the san joaquin valley region after having less than 10% of adult icu beds available for three straight days. meanwhile, pediatric hospitalizations are at the highest point since the pandemic began. in alabama, state officials say 13,000 cases were reported in schools over the last two weeks. in texas, where the governor has banned mass mandates in schools, there were 1200 73 reported cases of covid-19 in the first week of classes. last week, there were more than 27,000 new cases among public school students. >> as long as we have widespread coronavirus cases in the community, we are going to see more kids getting infected. missing crewmembers of a military helicopter that crashed off the san diego coast has been declared dead. the navy says search-and-rescue efforts have been shifted to recovery operations. the helicopter crashed last week into the ocean while it was doing routine operations on tuesday. one sailor was rescued after the

it's bit of a virtual home coming, more of the central part of the state, around oklahoma city area, by some of those places, but i do hope that at some point we will get to have you visit here in person, and i can't tell you what a powerful experience the book was and i wish you the best with it. i encourage you to get a copy and read the book. also go back if you haven't read "white rage" or "one person no vote", spend some time with these books and go out and do the work. thank you, professor henderson. take care everybody. we will see you very soon. >>> c-span shop.org is c-span's on line store. there is a collection of products. browse to see what's new. your purchase will support our nonprofit operations, and you still have time to order the congressional directory with contact information for members of congress and the biden administration. go to c-span shop.org. >> you are watching book tv with top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. book tv, television for series readers. -- for serious readers. >>> up next on after words, ben shapiro, podcast host and editor emerit

finally you're into your cool season, oklahoma city to denver, kansas city, after a rainy day today. -- we call it free air. temperature around 71 degrees. you don't need the heat or the a.c. absolutely perfect as we go throughout your wednesday. all that rainy weather will swing to your east. we've had gorges days the last three or four days. that comes to an end starting thursday. everyone joy today. >> enjoy today. that's a pretty good forecast. we'll take it. >>> still ahead, how president biden plans to open a new chapter in world affairs. the "washington post's" reporter joins us regarding the u.n. assembly address later today. >>> before we go to break, we want to know, why are you awake? email your reasons to "way too early"@msnbc.com. or #jon lemire. don't use the "h." we'll read the favorite answers later in the show. we'll read the favorite answers later in the show. ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with

they saw the federal building in oklahoma city where we are from, and they saw the -- they saw the federaluildings fall and they got scared. but when they got 18, they responded and joined the military. but one passed away. he gave all. and i just, you know, commend him for doing what he did. and my other one as well. host: let's go to don who is calling from washington. good morning. caller: good morning. i was just going to say we were all in portland, oregon at the international airport. i remember watching the f-16s take off and circle all-city for probably about a week, it seemed like. that was my day on that day. but i was wondering if you guys were going to show president trump's stuff. his speech yesterday. i tried to watch it on your internet and it would not play. so i was wondering if you guys might do that for us. thank you, god bless you. host: let's go to russell who is calling from south carolina. russell, good morning. caller: yes, good morning, america and jesse. i keep hearing people talk about all the terrible things that america did and somehow america had it coming tha

first bombing of world trade center in 1993, and fema's rescue effort after the terror attack in oklahoma cityrs later. his sons also in fdny spent the better part of the next month digging through ground zero, looking for their father. we lost terence hatten, leader of rescue one that lost ten more that day. he was married less than four years before at gracie mansion. their daughter terry was born five months after her father's death. myron smith first to report a plane smashed into the towers. hours later, this mother of a two-year-old, wife of a police officer, became the first female nypd officer killed in the line of duty. a firefighter survived the attacks in beirut, served 12 years with nypd before joining the fire department. then there was 71-year-old first deputy fire commissioner bill feeand, oldest firefighter to die in the line of duty. these are a handful of heroes lost on 9/11. services were held in chap else and synagogues, fire houses and ka thee drals, ceremonies that symbolized a nation united in grief and resolve. thousands of firefighters lined the street. everyone fell s

he'd already been to the oklahoma city bombing site and would continue responding to disasters after 9 11 like hurricane katrina. but this day would be one of his toughest. his friend and fellow task force member. new york fire battalion chief ray downey was killed with 342 other firefighters when the twin towers collapsed. you know that that made it personal made it harder. uh it was a devastating blow. chapel homans team sifted through the massive debris pile at night. it race holding out hope they're going to find someone alive and you know, maybe as misplaced as that hope was. that's what drives your work period every but we all wanted to have that happen. the team did find solace and bringing closure to families. by your covering their loved one's remains, but the tragedy didn't end when their job was complete, he said. 70% of the crew members got sick in the months and years after some had pneumonia, skin legions, nosebleeds are worse. it was important work that we did. we're all very proud of what we did. but you know, everybody paid physical price and mental price and that's

look, the oklahoma city bombing happened in the '90s. this has been around for quite a bit. and even the groups that participate in january 6th have been around. what has changed, however, and what i think president bush is, former president bush's remarks really highlighted is the threat has been there of domestic extremists and far right militia groups. what has changed is the public officials willingness to actually call it out, in both parties. not just talking about the trump administration. it was the obama administration that had an intelligence report warning of the rise of militia groups and it was the obama administration with then vice president biden that withdrew that report. pulled it back because of criticism from mainly republicans over how it would look upon veterans. so, look at where we've come from 2009 then to now with president bush standing there and making a comparison between the threat of domestic extremists and the, you know, what the federal government had been willing to call out for years and the more foreign-based terrorism. >> it is nothing li

remember oklahoma city was the same day as waco. and so one thing that the department is looking at is this period of time up to 9/11. we used to joke in our humor the radicalization of the right we used to call vanilla isis, in other words it was just about radicalization. what we have to remember is they're really focused on an image of america that they don't like this america, the white supremacist groups and right-wing groups. it is this america, it is a diverse america one in which women are equal, one in which there is diversity, this great replacement that andrew was talking about that sound very similar to the taliban. and so there is a nexus in terms of both the international sentiment of a radicalization or a sort of fascism that we see in the terrorist groups but that's then repeated by the member of congress as we've heard recently sort of radicalizing and talking about violence and of course the right wing media machine. this is why we -- not surprising as andrew said just given what their sentiment is. >> and andrew,

they saw the federal building in oklahoma city where we're from and they saw the -- they saw the, theederal buildings fall. and they got scared. but they when they got 18, they responded and joined the military. but one passed away. so, yeah. he gave all. and i just, you know, commend him for doing what he did and my other one as well. host: let's go to don who's calling from washington. don, good morning. caller: good morning, jesse. hey, yeah, i was just going to say where i was. i was in portland, oregon, at the international airport there. and i remember watching with the f-16's take off and circumstance tell whole city for probably about a week, it seemed like. and that was my day on that day. but i was wondering if you guys were going to show president trump's stuff there, his speech yesterday. i tried to watch it on you guys' internet and it would not play. and so i was wondering if you guys might do that for us thank you, jesse. god bless you. host: let's go to russell from south carolina. russell, good morning. caller: yes, good morning, america, and jesse. i keep hearing peo

co-executive-director of the trust women foundation which operates clinics in wichita, kansas and oklahoma cityundergraduate education at american university. her research focuses on reproductive rights law. thank you both for joining me. and rebecca, let's start with you, because you say your clinic in oklahoma is among those seeing a huge uptick in interest from patients in texas who need a want an abortion. explain to us what the last few days have been like in terms of the calls you've been getting and the types of questions and concerns you've been hearing. >> yeah, the volume has just been ridiculous. at least four times as many appointments that we've been making right now. people from all over texas. and people who would have normally gone to a texas clinic, perhaps, and now can no longer do that. so we're receiving calls from louisiana as well. people are panicked. they are upset that they have to travel four to six hours, you know, sometimes 600 miles round trip, to be seen for a very simple procedure, sometimes for a pill, right? it's very cruel, how they wrote this law and the way t

that was part of my generation, what we learned as we were growing up and we had to deal with the oklahoma citynuary 6th. there's been all kinds of challenges we face. but i think we can honor the memory of those we lost on 9/11, not only by continuing to take the fight to the terrorist enemies but by remembering that what unites us is far greater than what divides us and i would like to see our politicians, i say this as a citizen, democrats and republicans, kind of lay off the nasty partisan attacks and get to the business of solving our nation's problems. i'd like to see their energy focused on that a little more. arthel: if we don't, what happens? is domestic terror given license to attack again? >> i think all of our politicians understand that they enjoy a bully pulpit as president theodore roosevelt liked to say and words matter and those who seek to do us harm inside our own country as president bush noted may derive inspiration from things that politicians say, even if politicians don't mean it to be taken that particular way. so they just have to be aware and weary of what they're say

he'd already been to the oklahoma city bombing site and would continue responding to disasters after9 11 like hurricane katrina. but this day would be one of his toughest. his friend and fellow task force member. new york fire battalion chief ray downey was killed with 342 other firefighters when the twin towers collapsed. you know that that made it personal made it harder. uh it was a devastating blow. chapel homans team sifted through the massive debris pile at night. it raise holding out hope they're going to find someone alive and you know, maybe as misplaced as that hope was, that's what drives your work period every but we all wanted to have that happen. the team did find solace and bringing closure to families by recovering their loved ones were mains. but the tragedy didn't end when their job was complete, he said. 70% of the crew members got sick in the months and years after some had pneumonia, skin legions, nosebleeds are worse. it was important work that we did. we're all very proud of what we did. but you know, everybody paid physical price and mental price and that's no

president bill and first lady hillary clinton in honor and in remembrance of the victims of the oklahoma city federal bombing. >> gerald and betty ford put in the swimming pool. you can't see it from the street. i can't see it from west executive avenue which is a street that's now just a parking lot. but they did that because he had been vice president for about a nanosecond, and his friends had raised money for a pool at the vice president's residence. he became president. is that, do some people consider that an eyesore, or is that kind of a charming addition and certainly something that american first families have enjoyed since the ford era? >> well, i don't think i know anybody that considers it an eyesore, and that's a really because of what you just said. nobody can really see it until you're right up on it. and for that matter, the same goes for the white house tennis court and a number of other spots on the white house grounds. they've been very carefully installed over the years so as to not impinge upon historic character of the grounds, damage any of the significant tree planting

a flowering dogwood planted by first lady hillary clinton in remembrance of the victims of the oklahoma city federal bombing. >> gerald andd betty ford. you can't see it from the street and i can't see it from west executive avenue which is now just a parking lot but he had been vice president for a nano second and his friends had raised money fornd a pool and he became president. do some people considerpl that n eyesore or is that a charming addition and certainly something that american first families had enjoyed since the ford era? >> i don't think i know anybody that considers it an eyesore and really because of what you just said. nobody really could see it until you are right on it and for that matter the same goes for the white house tennis court and the number of other spots on the whiteon house grounds. they've been very carefully installed over the years so it does not impinge upon the historic character of the ground and any of the significant tree plantings and really does not interfere with the views to the white house like a iconic shop and in the exterior of the building. i do