okrugazbank provides it at 30%, that is, these are not the right numbers, these are not the right ratesle can follow deep thermal modernization, therefore, in my opinion , there is no energy efficiency policy in the country , the adoption of a law on energy efficiency is not a policy, it is simply the creation of a certain regulatory base, it is the creation of certain obligations, who should do what, but according to the creation of these obligations opportunities must also be created, that is, there are so-called thin infrastructures. enablement and support infrastructure, so it will be possible such and such work when the funding program appears, when the training programs for specialists appear, which will be to be done when energy managers appear in cities and they will be given the authority to initiate these certain processes, that is, there is a mass, a mass, in addition to money, a mass of other activities that must be done in order for this activity to begin, so far it has not started well, at the very end, i want to ask about something completely different, i just also read,