. >> charlie: if olajuwon is here -- >> doesn't matter. don't look at him as olajuwon. >> charlie: who do you look at him as, another player? >> yes. you don't think about who you're playing with. you compete against yourself in life and everything you do. because sometimes, let's see we play a bad team, you can't say, we're not playing a good team, i'm taking it easy. but if you compete against yourself and have high expectations, that's how you keep yourself going. >> charlie: is there one shot you remember more than any other shot you've ever taken? >> not really. the only thing that bugs me is the bulls were double-teaming me in the playoffs and i got the ball three times and they made me pass it. >> charlie: you didn't have a shot. >> i did have a shot. >> charlie: tell me about the skills of michael. >> michael is just a tremendous, one of the five best players i've ever played against. >> charlie: the other four? kim michael is the best. >> charlie: could gotten over him? >> couldn't stop him. best front line. rt, mckill and paris.