oleg and a fellow christian pastor started the bakery in 2016.needed physical as well as spiritual sustenance. now he spends his days in marinka but at night he goes home to a town safely away from the frontline. he does not hide where his political sympathies lie. he takes me to meet his family. oleg was once a successful businessman in donetsk, which is now in rebel—held territory. he sought solace in the church after his eldest daughter died in a car crash — that was before the war. today he dedicates his life to helping others. oleg brought in bread from other towns, but it arrived stale and cold, so he got the idea for the bakery. it opened with the help of foreign aid — $10,000 from canada, where there is a big ukrainian diaspora, and flour from the czech republic. the bakery employs seven people. on tonight's shift, three work flat out to produce enough bread, bun and biscuits for the next day. it is just past 11 o'clock and they are waiting for the bread to rise, but the time that i have been here we have already heard gunfire and mortar

of the 12, eight of them are controlled by oleg.side from his being, oleg deripaska is the known for his longstanding business dealings with paul manafort now awaiting trial on many felonies. the a.p. reported in manage of last year, manafort side a contract with oleg deripaska to promote muten's government around the world. manafort denies that, but a.p. stance by the reporting. court documents indicate that deripaska and manafort tried several business ventures together. he's been trying to get back money that he says manafort stole from him. "the atlantaic quugs turned up e-mails from when manafort was running trump's campaign, apparently linking the campaign to his outstanding unsettled business hours with oleg deripaska. it was asking if he had seen the press clippings. he asked if there was some way that he could use that to get whole with oleg deripaska. he offered private briefings on the campaign. manafort's business associate, somebody whose mueller prosecutors assess as having current tying to russian intelligence, manafo

well, oleg is now sanctioned by the u.s. government and his business empire has just had a drop today and he's close to putin and nobody knows how the russian government is going to respond. they say they will respond in kind but there is no russian equivalent to looking multibillionaires out of the u.s. economy. not when your country is economically weak. russia is the biggest question on earth. they got an economy as big as italy. they have to create oligarchs to do their work everywhere. nobody knows what russia means saying they have to retaliate in kind. they won't do anything to get a national security advisor in place monday morning. russia doesn't workweek ends, do they? that's before we get to the problem, the other big problem with the sanctions list, which is a problem for the new guy who is supposed to start as national security advisor on monday and that that will curl your hair. that's coming up next. stay with us. you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. w

he asked if there was some way he could use that to get whole with oleg deripaska. he offered private briefings on the campaign to deripaska. manafort's business associates, someone who prosecutors assess as having current ties to russian intelligence, then e-mailed to say he spent five hours meeting with deripaska and had several important messages from deripaska that he needed to deliver in person to manafort. he said those messages concerned the future of his country, meaning deripaska's country, meaning russia. so manafort and his business associate then met up in new york in early august 2016 to discuss whatever those messages were from oleg deripaska. at the time manafort was trump's campaign manager. well, deripaska is now sanctioned by the u.s. government, and his business empire has just had an anville dropped on it by these sanctions today. and he is close to putin and nobody knows how the russian government is going to respond to this. they say they're going to respond in kind but there's no russian equivalent to locking multi-billionaires out of the u.s.

probably not. >> the oligarch targeted today ol oleg. >> that's right. i've tracked him down to vietnam where he was there on the side lines. he was part of putin's business delegation that he took with him. it shows how close it is to are putin's center power. if they offered private briefings as a way of alleviating the debt. he was not happy about me asking those questions and refusing to answer. the u.s. treasury sanctions report paints a very unsavory picture of oleg deripaska. it talks about how he's been bribing officials, taking part in extortion, racketeering, even ordering the murder of a businessman and someone alleged to have links with russian organized crime. so this is an individual who is obviously taken very seriously indeed. he is very close to vladimir putin and not someone to be trifled with. >> might any of these oligarchs be relevant to the mueller investigation? >> i think the answer is yes. anyone close to putin and who may have served as a way to get money into the election system. perhaps as conduit. those three names immediatel

russian national guard, looking at vladimir putin's son-in-law, putin advisers and billionaires, like oleg pasgov. he's alleged to have ties with former trump campaign chairman paul manafort and rick gates, both who have been indicted in the robert mueller russia investigation. these are clearly senior level people, both in russian business, and russian political circles, as well as the russian government. but we're not looking at an enormous number of people. remember, it was months ago in january, congress passed this law, mainly to punish russia for meddling in the u.s. election. as a result of that law, the state department and treasury needed to draw up a list of people like this who they could sanction, so there were nearly 100 oligarchs in that list. 100 more people on the prominent russians list, including russian senior officials. and the administration chose not to sanction them right away. when this list came out. again, this was in january. so back then we were looking at a list of some 200 russian people who could be targeted. and now there are seven oligarchs and 17 senior go

oleg paska, mr. suleiman kerimov and so.f these people are supporting putin but enjoy theironey abroad and essentially get all these financial sanctions then putin would have to do something because they've held up their end of the social gar bin. putin does something, that would be anesque latory move. bu if putin does nothing, that was -- that wouldhow the limits of his power and that would be a did. choice f him. >> so go after the mid-levelhe people r than those who have the means to escape these kinds of sanction is? >> yeah, the people at the top usare ina and with putzen to the very end before bf but those who can't rely on the personal protection of putin would be much more difficult for putin to defend and that would behe kind of step that would indicate the u.s. is serious about pushing russia. >>er thank youmuch. palestinian officials say that 10 people have died and hundreds more wound during fresh protests along gaza's border with israel. the israeli army set its on fire on people trying to demand defenses. they

then there's oleg deripaska with alleged ties to the campaign chairman. viktor vekselberg made a large donation to trump's donation. that's also vekselberg's cousin. plus his company has ties allegedly to current commerce secretary wilbur ross. so clearly the administration has chosen a few of the original more than 200 people that they put on a list for potential sanctions, but they're not shying away from some of putin's real inner circle, as well as some of the sha dirks hrks arkse that the special counsel is looking into. why is it hard for these sanctions to come down, and why is it so unusual for the administration to spell out that this is in part because of russian meddling in the u.s. election, wolf? >> very significant list. nonetheless, a major step as far as the u.s. trying to punish the russians. michelle kosinski, thanks very much. here to break it down for us, cnn national security analyst, former senior adviser to the national security council under president obama. tell us how this all came together. >> wolf, this is a really good day for

oleg deripaska became a billionaire from his dealings in aluminium. russia's super rich he has benefited from a relationship at the kremlin. he isjust one from a relationship at the kremlin. he is just one of a long from a relationship at the kremlin. he isjust one of a long list from a relationship at the kremlin. he is just one of a long list of individuals close to vladimir putin targeted by these us sanctions. actions intended to financially punish them and intended to send a message to moscow. in a statement, oleg deripaska said: but the white house says russia has been abusing its power internationally, as well as meddling inside america. as the president has said he wants to have a good relationship with russia, but that will depend on some of the actions by the russians, however at the same time the president is going to continue to be tough until we see that change take place. the sanctions are in response to claims that russia interviewed with america's residential election. the retaliation for the way the country has used its influence in s

sanctions announced on april sixth affect fourteen russian businesses and seven oligarchs among them oleg thierry pascoe who's been accused of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. election his company roussel is the world's second largest producer of aluminum within a week of the announcement its stock fell by forty percent. but in that's not a one off market capitalization for many companies has falling even those not affected by the sanctions because. nerves are jittery moscow's stock market is under pressure american corporations have to sell all their shares in russian companies by may seventh any business caught helping another bypass the sanctions is in danger of being sanctioned itself. if. investors are feeling unsettled and that instability is poison no one knows how things will progress with russia is for issue. the sanctions have also had russia's urns industry the u.s. has blacklisted rosso border an export which has a monopoly on the country's weapons exports tens of thousands of jobs depend on the sector and russian prime minister dmitry medvedev is promising to help affec

dossier and three russians who keep coming up in bob mueller's russia investigation, most notably oleg deripaska, an oligarch who once had close ties to paul manafort, trump's one time campaign chairman. as the "new york times" writes, the sanctions come just as investigators working for robert mueller have begun to question russian oeligarchs about possibe financial links between those in mr. putin's orbit and those close to mr. trump. frank figliuzzi, you have predicted twice something that turned out to be true so i'll start with you. is it your sense the people being sanctioned are also people who are on or could be on bob mueller's radar for crimes committed during the 2016 election? >> yeah. i think there are some overlapping people there but i've got to tell you, while i applaud the sanctions today, and they're making it painful to be a friend of putin and that's a good thing, i'm a cynic, i also look for the back story and i think what we're seeing here, without one unkind word about russia being uttered by the president, i think we're seeing foreign policy as personal defense.

oleg deripaska is obviously his favorite oligarch but there are others on the list. shamirov, the son of one of putin's closest friends and also said to be putin's son-in-law, though there are other reports that he recently got divorced from putin's daughter. a family member essentially. there's no question that this list of individuals targeted at those very close to putin himself and in the inner circle. other people on this list close to him as well. in terms of what putin will do, it's very unpredictable. we heard that call from andrey kostin for nothing to be done forks r this to end. in the past, putin has downsized the diplomatic mission here, expeled american diplomats t will be very interesting and very dangerous period we're currently in, i think. >> absolutely. very unpredictable. of course, he also cracked down on american adoptions in russia. matthew, i know you'll be on top of it. thank you so much for that report. we have a lot to discuss here, including how these sanctions tie into the mueller investigation, as we've been discussing. and the timing of

oleg darapasta, he is of course wrapped up in the russian probe. paul manafort owed him money. during the campaign of secret briefings back to oleg, the focus here is so intense that he offered to cooperate with congress when he asked for immunity. why would cohen want immunity? >> there's been nobody tougher on russia than president donald trump, but russia will tell you nobody's been tougher than donald trump. >> i'm now joined by a diplomatic director as well as bill kristol editor at large for the weekly standard. bill, do they not care about getting caught because they already have their headlines? >> there might be good reasons for waving or delaying sanctions for one particular company. the way the treasury department decided to float it. but time flies in trump world, in trump's america. a week ago nikki haley went on sunday and said they were about to announce major sungation asa there were talking points going out the week before talking about sanctions, she was talking to larry kudlow and she famously now responded that she was confused and she said i don't get confu

some of the all the guards here with the closest ties to be made putin in the kremlin people like oleg deripaska and viktor of exel but these are things that people in the west have been arguing for for some time saying that you can only affect the kremlin change its foreign policy by going after these people there is of course though a bit of a counter-argument to this that i've heard recently which is that actually going after the oligarchs with the closest ties to the kremlin will eventually strengthen the kremlin in the long run because these are people who have taken huge assets huge quantities of money out of russia and put them in safer havens like london and slight for us and other financial centers around the world so by targeting them and their assets internationally what they'll be forced to do is bring them back to russia and that is something that the kremlin has actually been trying to make happen for some time with very little success perhaps by going after these older guards and their assets the united states is actually forcing them to bring those assets back to russia

oleg deripaska, head of an aluminum company, he invested in a venture that paul manafort and rick gates were involved in. manafort reached out to an i intermediary of deripaska. there is no indication the two over spoke. but you can see how they overlap and rick gates is cooperating with the investigation, and as part of that cooperation has to talk about everything. he was also a deputy chairman of the trump inauguration committee. another individual on the list is victor vexleburg, an energy oligarch and he attended two events of interest. he was at a dinner that michael flynn attended in december 2015 with vladimir putin. that we know caused a lot of controversy. he also attended the trump inauguration with -- at the invite of a friend of his, according to his spokesman who told that to the washington post. another name on the list, designated as a government official, is alexander torshin, a banker in russia, also very closely associated with the nra, he is -- puts himself out as building the russian equivalent of the nra, attended a number of the conventions. and we understand that

. >> oleg does not have much to smile about right now.hares in the company, at the heart of the global aluminum empire limited -- plummeted monday. analysts contributed the volatility to the latest sanctions the u.s. imposed on russia. >> was a time when sanctions were imposed on the privately owned russian entities, because before, sanctions had been opposed only on state-owned entities. today, we see high volatility on the russian market. reporter: fears of the european union could also be mulling fresh sanctions have left businesses on edge. meanwhile, russian prime minister has ordered his government to draw up possible retaliatory steps. >> we believe there is an obvious, simple, pragmatic goal behind the u.s. sanctions. to adjust their own economic challenges enough uncompetitive way. reporter: the threat of more western sanctions has prompted russian companies to look eastward in the search for new market. -- markets. >> the markets in the sanctions have a potential market and new markets for the russian producers and investment so

at 2016 nra convention, and industrialist oleg deripaska, a paul manafort business associate. russia says it will respond firmly. >> decisions are made in russia generally on friday when putin sitting down with five or six of his key associates. well -- >> reporter: today's friday. >> today's friday and some of those associates are on this list. so they have something to talk about. >> reporter: tonight the white house says the crackdown will not prevent the president from having a summit with putin depending on how russia responds. andrea mitchell, nbc news, washington. >>> there is breaking news tonight about a popular classified ad website the feds have shut down, backstage.com, a site associated with prostitution and child exploitation and long a target for local prosecutors and congressional investigators. nbc justice correspondent pete williams has details. >> reporter: federal agents today searched an arizona house belonging to one of the website's founders as the federal government shut down the internet site backpage.com saying it was an action supported by the justic

here we have oleg deripaska, an aluminium magnate close to president putin, who also had links to donaldanager, paul manafort. another sanctioned was kirill shamolov, he's russia's youngest billionaire and married president putin's daughter in 2013. alexei miller the deputy chairman of the board of directors for the energy company gazprom, is another of those hit. he's said that he's proud of being included on the list. and finally, this is suleyman kerimov, a politician and oligarch, also close to mr putin , who was also on the list. mark zuckerberg, the ceo of facebook, says the social media giant is tightening up its procedures for people wanting to place issue based advertisements on the site. more comprehensive id will now be required as well as a physical mailing address. it comes as zuckerberg prepares to address congress next week. our correspondent dave lee has this update from san francisco. these measures is to monitor the funding of advertising, to see where adverts that have been paid for by a campaign to be on facebook to make sure it is completely clear, they will make sur

here we have oleg deripaska, an aluminium magnate close to president putin, who also had links to donald manager, paul manafort. another sanctioned was kirill shamalov, he's russia's youngest billionaire and married president putin's daughter in 2013. alexei miller, the deputy chairman of the board of directors for the energy company gazprom, is another of those hit. he's said that he's proud of being included on the list. and finally this is suleyman kerimov, a politician and oligarch, also close to mr putin, also on the list. russia is also in dispute with western countries over the nerve agent attack in the uk. doctors treating its target, the former spy sergei skripal, now say he is recovering and is no longer in a critical condition. leila nathoo reports. they were targeted with a chemical weapon. sergei skripal and his daughter yulia, seen here in newly released family photos taken in russia. they were hospitalised more than a month ago, after being exposed to a nerve agent, a toxic chemical designed to shut down the human body. but they have been fighting its effects, and today th

sanctions announced on april sixth affect fourteen russian businesses and seven oligarchs among them oleg thierry pascoe who's been accused of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. election his company roussel is the world's second largest producer of aluminum within a week of the announcement its stock fell by forty percent. but in that's not a one off market capitalization for many companies has falling even those not affected by the sanctions because. nerves are jittery moscow's stock market is under pressure american corporations have to sell all their shares in russian companies by may seventh any business card helping another bypass the sanctions is in danger of being sink and itself. if the summer. investors are feeling unsettled and that instability is poison no one knows how things will progress with russia for issue. the sanctions have also had russia's urns industry the u.s. has blacklisted rosso border an export which has a monopoly on the country's weapons exports tens of thousands of jobs depend on the sector and russian prime minister dmitry medvedev is promising to help a

of his personal friends and even a former son in law in regards to his personal friend his name is oleg deripaska he's the billionaire founder of a group that operates siberian power plants but you remember also to his name from last year when it made headlines for being potentially tied to paul matter for trump's former presidential campaign chair so that is certainly notable and again the former son in law of lattimer putin now all of this is something that has been encouraged by the u.s. congress. donald trump was given this power by the congress last summer but didn't start to take action under this law that he reluctantly side until last month that we are getting some congressional reaction from this both democrats republicans applauding this action that has finally been taken in fact the republican senator marco rubio saying that these sanctions really are designed to send a clear message to putin that the illegal occupation of ukraine support for assad's regime in terms of war crimes efforts to undermine western democracies and militias cyber attacks will continue to result in se

target thirty eight russian entities seven all of guards are named including putin's personal friend oleg deripaska he's the billionaire founder of an group the largest operator of siberian power plants dura pasta made headlines last year for his reported links to paul mann afford trumps former presidential campaign chair seventeen senior russian government officials and one state owned trading company have also been singled out the latest move comes in response to u.s. accusations russia meddled in the twenty sixteen us election its intervention in ukraine malicious cyber activity and its backing of syrian president bashar assad who the u.s. accuses of using chemical weapons against civilians the russian government calls the latest sanctions a mistake and has always denied meddling in any us affairs nobody has been tougher on russia than i have but it took months for trump to get tough on russia he was granted the power by the u.s. congress last summer. but waited until last month to impose sanctions the white house escalated its response weeks later joining nearly two dozen other countr

including on the list, oleg deripaska who owns one of the largest aluminum producers. he has longstanding ties to paul manafort who according to the "washington post" reached out to the russian oligarch who reached out to president trump's campaign. also, viktor who had a prominent role at the same time will better ross will a large investment in the bank. viktor investigatelberg attended the swearing in. and torshin who has longstanding ties to the national rifle association. he had a brief interwax the president's eldest son, donald trump jr. and also played a role in an effort to arrange a meeting between trump and putin that same year. the tough new moves may have been announced by the trump administration but the president has been mostly quiet. >> we speak on behalf of the president. day in, day out. the president has signed off and directed these actions. i think that speaks volumes, actually, on how the president feels and exactly underscores what he said earlier this week when he said no one has been tougher on russia. >> after indicting 13 over allegations th

individuals or entities that have been targeted and they include vladimir putin's personal friend oleg deripaska he's a billionaire who has founded a group that operates siberian power plants and you might remember also too he was in the headlines last year because there were some alleged links to paul matter for the chair of donald trump's presidential campaign so that is the significant name in all of this but also a lot of former southern law has been targeted as well now what is interesting in all of this is well it is intended to send a message to putin personally it appears adulterer has also said this week that he thinks a relationship with russia might be a good thing in fact the white house confirming very recently that there was a telephone call between the russian president the u.s. president where in fact an invitation was extended to let him here putin to come to washington potentially even to the white house for a meeting so we've almost got mixed messages here with these sanctions because donald trump a said no one has been tougher on russia but these actions that have t

julie: russia related news today, that is key, a leg -- oleg agreeing to resign and reduces stake toess than 50%. the holding company owns 40% of rusal, russia's largest aluminum producer which is under sanction . the trump administration had said that if he gave up his holding of rusal, perhaps we would not impose sanctions. it is delaying them. aluminum prices coming down as a result. these sanctions we had been seeing stockpiling ahead of that had been driving prices up. sanctions are less likely to go into effect. alumina prices down. alcoa and century aluminum in the u.s. going down. the effect of korea in the market today on this rapprochement that may lead to something more. adr, that are used to track korea, the ewy, a korea etf up 1% and korea electric who trade inand kt the u.s. are trading higher. , we aresouth korea cdf seeing them trend lower to show there is a lower risk being priced into the market of south korea. a risk cross. we see this as low as it was in 2016, coming back toward those levels. we are in earnings seasons. there are some bake movers. the best perform

officials say they have received measures if oleg relinquished control, aluminum fell in response, falling 9%, the most on record. paul: gm in a bit of bankruptcy after reaching a deal. revamp of a business that has lost about $3 billion in the past four years. failure to reach a deal would have led to change in leadership. more coming up. this is bloomberg. ♪ this is bloomberg. ♪ retail. under pressure like never before. and it's connected technology that's moving companies forward fast. e-commerce. real time inventory. virtual changing rooms. that's why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent network speed across multiple locations. every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. comcast business outmaneuver. paul: it is 8:30 a.m. here in sydney. markets opening. futures looking as flat as sydney harbour. very quiet. i am paul allen. paul. how poetic, i am betty lou in new york where it is 6:30 p.m. let's get to first word news with jessica summers. jessica: alphabet shares soaring after beati

. >> jill, let's talk about oleg daraposco. he is somebody who has ties to paul manafort. these have been established. he is the one who was paying paul manafort for lobbying work on behalf of the russian government and perhaps getting some access to the trump campaign as a result. what do you think about this new development. >> i think it's interesting. anybody who ever believed that was a casual meeting in the seychelles. i would like to offer them the 666 building that the kushners now have. it was never believable. that was ridiculous, he's another contact to russia, it's another thing that is manafort and gates are clearly involved with, and they were very much involved in the trump campaign so we're looking at not just obstruction, we're looking at collusion, and i think the evidence is growing on both of those cases. >> i want to ask you something, joyce, the rosen stein memo this week authorizing robert mueller to look into manafort's business dealings, obviously manafort is the connection the memo specifically authorizes collusion by the former campaign chairman

on the list, billionaire oleg deripaska, who agreed to invest $19 million with paul manafort and hisy, rick gates. >> is it true mr. manafort owed you millions when he was head of the trump campaign? >>. >> reporter: he won't answer questions when asked by matthew chance last year. manafort agreed to provide private briefings when manafort was trump's campaign chairman. and actilexander torshin may ha used the nra to illegally funnel funds to the trump campaign. torshin reportedly played a role in an effort to arrange a meeting between trump and putin that same year. and viktorvekselberg as well. >> there may have been back channels used by oligarchs to fund the trump campaign and perhaps the inauguration as well. >> reporter: cnn reported that mueller has pinpointed at least three russian oligarchs whose identity was unknown. one was stopped when his private plane stopped in the new york city area and agents searched their electronics. >> now mueller is looking at the oligarchs directly and interviewing them in an effort to understand from their point of view what happened here. so

oleg deripaska, alexander torshin and viktor vekselberg. shimon, how critical is this? >> very critical. deripaska, based on some state department information, is one of these wealthy oligarchs who consults with putin regularly. and it's been reported, this is the connection to manafort, one of the connections, anyhow, that before trump was nominated, manafort had offered to brief deripaska privately on how the campaign was going, and deripaska was also in business which both failed with manafort and gates. so critical connections to two high-level people in the trump campaign. the two others you mentioned, viktor vekselborg has ties to putin. he's head of a russian electric company, and clearly everything that goes on in russia involves the government, and he also has ties to putin. another one of these things that's interesting and where vekselborg has come up with counter-intelligence officials at the fbi, according to the "washington post," he attended an event. he was at the inauguration in 2017. both of these have come under scrutiny by folks at the hill and muell

including in the sanction was olo oleg dare paska, former associate of paul manafort.for paul manafort, special counsel robert mueller's have a new search warrant against him, the seventh so far, one of those warrants for a storage locker. his attorneys filed a motion to suppress evidence found inside that locker. let's bring in barbara mcquaid and also the author of the book "how to catch a russian spy." what do you make of this week's developments, barbara and what i just introduced our segment with. >> there were a number of search warrants revealed in the paul manafort case that are interesting. one is a storage locker, there's a motion to suppress that evidence. that will get litigated. apparently they found lots of business documents that could be very interesting and of value in the case and there was the search warrant for five phones that was disclosed as well, as recently as march 9, unrelated to the current charges. so that is looking at additional things. and the phones, one theory i heard floated, it could provide that link between the activity robert muel

was manafort's kind of deputy in ukraine, the person who received that infamous e-mail saying has oleg deripaska seen the news i'm on the trump campaign? can we use this to get made whole? let's talk now about paul manafort and about the person who sent that e-mail. there was this part of the filing yesterday that was fascinating me. it was unredacted and it was the mueller team saying here's why it's okay for us to bring this prosecution in the scope of our what we're allowed to do as a special counsel. basically saying look, we are investigating him because people have made allegations that he was involved in the collusion. what do you make of that? >> it's very interesting. i think to date, certainly because of the public filing and charges we were all aware that paul manafort was charged with financial crimes with acting as an agent of ukraine without register. but there was a specific mission from rod ozen stein to investigate collusion with russia. i think that's something new. i suppose many of us could speculate that that investigation has gone on but it makes me wonder the sta

oleg darapasca and victor vesselburg. how badly do you believe these sanctions can hurt them?ly. and thank you. i did bring suit against mr mr. darapasca and mr mr. vesselburg, you know, it's widely considered that these folks have tied with criminal organizations in russia. and i happen to think that these sanctions are going to have a significant impact. russia, you know, there's a word troika, means, you know, the big three. and they've sanctioned darapasca, victor vesselburg and karimov. and all three of these people control very substantial businesses in russia who i think are going to be damaged and i think it's going to affect employment there significantly. >> so when russia vows a harsh response, what does it mean? how harsh could it be? how would the u.s. be impacted? >> well, number one, they could deny visas to americans, you know, like me. i have an office in moscow. they could make it more difficult for americans to do business there. there are a number of american businesses there, exxon and other folks in the oil and gas industry. they could impose sanctions on

russian national guard, looking at vladimir putin's son-in-law, putin advisers and billionaires, like olego have ties with former trump campaign chairman paul manafort and rick gates, both who have been indicted in the robert mueller russia investigation. these are clearly senior level people, both in russian business, and russian political circles, as well as

there's a guy on this list, oleg pass ka. he is connected to paul manafort. nbc news says manafort offered to give him private briefings. he is now on this list of people, this is somewhat significant. >> this is significant. i think we speak a lot about how president trump talks about washington and putin. >> the rhetoric that he uses is not as touch as others want to see. >> exactly. what his administration has done is pretty tough. this is tough. the acetone yan president was here, she had meetings with members of the press. we kept pushing her on russia and what president trump said behind closed doors and she was basically like, the actions that the u.s. have taken, whether that be through nato r diplomats or what we're saying today. she sort of hinted at what we saw today i don't think we picked up on it. she's like, that makes a country like acetone ya feels the president of the united states feel better. and i think we have to in some ways give lim credit for that. >> i think the other thing is, this morning when you have senior officials going out of

to note is that the oligarch was sanctioned not because he was a bad actor but for having ties to oleg are basically that he owns a company that owns rusal. so the effects of the sanction, they feel they're in jeopardy and need to ask for an exemption, they're saying listen, we are not involved in bad behavior, and we think that we are owed this exemption. it's obviously having a massive impact. we're not -- >> don't blame us because he owns us. >> right. >> can you split the two, though? >> treasury seems to be suggesting so, that they can escape sanctions if he quit the company. >> right. to be fair, they're still sanctioned, so it's giving them some time, six months, to figure out what to do. and in the meantime, u.s. businesses and ostensibly european businesses, will figure out if they want to continue working with them. but i couldn't go so far as to say this is a softening stance or even a reprieve so much as y my -- when they took the actions in april, the u.s. private sector and probably the europeans, the germans have been vocal about that, probably said whoa, whoa. >> we nee

one of them, oleg deripaska is of interest because he had invested in what paul manafort and rick gatesad put together ten years ago. deripaska is suing them because that fell apart. also during the campaign, two weeks before trump won the republican nomination, through an intermediary, manafort reach ed out to deripaska, wanting to know if he wanted a private briefing. we also know rick gates was the vice chair of trump's inaugurati inauguration. he has pled guilty and is cooperating with the investigation, an avenue through which mueller can look at this. one thing we know mueller is looking at -- he stopped two oligarchs as they entered the u.s. recently. the money trail. did money enter the campaign directly or indirectly? victor vekselberg is of interest because he attended two events, at the trump inauguration, along with an american business partner of his. and he also attended that dinner that michael tlin went to in december 2015 when he sat next to vladimir putin. those are also -- michael flynn, of course, pled guilty. third individual is alexander torshin, a russian banker.

oleg dereposkov. alexander torshin, someone who tried to set up -- approach the trump campaign about a meeting between the trump and putin who don junior met with briefly at a national rifle association gathering during the campaign. and there also seem to be trying to target very specifically russian oligarchs and while not necessarily hindering the econo economy. it's an interesting approach and frankly one of the toughest they've taken since president trump came into office. >> natasha, do we expect any sort of retaliation from russia? >> it's an interesting question. as of right now, the russians are -- they're really angry about this move that the u.s. took. it's not something that they can respond to semitrically like they could with the expulsion of the diplomats. we saw a tit-for-tat in that and now we don't know what they're going to do in response. but it is a very significant move that the trump administration took, and it's one that, you know, of course, experts are always saying that it c

target thirty eight russian entities seven all of guards are named including putin's personal friend oleg deripaska he's the billionaire founder of em group the largest operator of siberian power plants dura pasta made headlines last year for his reported links to paul mann afford trumps former presidential campaign chair seventeen senior russian government officials and one state owned trading company have also been singled out the latest move comes in response to u.s. accusations russia meddled in the twenty sixteen us election its intervention in ukraine malicious cyber activity and its backing of syrian president bashar assad who the u.s. accuses of using chemical weapons against civilians the russian government calls the latest sanctions a mistake and has always denied meddling in any us affairs nobody has been tougher on russia than i have but it took months for trying to get tough on russia he was granted the power by the u.s. congress last summer. but waited until last month to impose sanctions the white house escalated its response weeks later joining nearly two dozen other count

he mentionsy the billionaire oleg deripaska. was also one of the men targeted was formally married to vladimir putin's daughter, so it really is a bit closer to an inner circle of people. whether it has any impact that putin has secured his election, it is hard to see but that is something we will be watching for in the coming weeks and months. joe: obviously, the administration has been accused nonstop for lacking teeth and its actions against russia. has beeny, this action praised by some critics so why did they do it? bill: that is a great question. the administration has been under a lot of pressure from republican foreign-policy hawks in congress. you're talking about the lindsey graham's and john mccain's. you have even seen of alaska will of weeks the departing national security adviser, h h.r. mcmaster, saying russia has not paid a price. that is something trump's own security agency told the senate february. even among his closest aides there has been a feeling that russia has not paid a price for meddling in the of ele