will talk about it now with the legal adviser to the president of ukraine on economic issues, oleg mostynka. congratulations, oleg. well, let's just try . i think it's time to evaluate the ukrainian economy. today, they say that it has shrunk by 35%. it seems to me that these are generally even optimistic figures. by and large, maybe not, because you and i never know what the contribution to our economy of the shadow sector is, how it decreases, fans of crisis events, this is also quite often a surprise for economists, what do you know on paper, this is reduced, but we look on the street. and there, such a reduction is not visible either in business, or in the purchasing power of citizens, or in the work of enterprises and smaller and medium -sized businesses. the reality with which we always deal outside the numbers, well, the shadow sector of the economy in ukraine has always existed, by the way, it exists in any country in the world and, let's say, in western economies , there is no problem only in how big it is in relation to the ukrainian economy if i i remember the statistics correctl

will talk about it now with the legal adviser to the president of ukraine on economic issues, oleg mostynkaleg. economy today, he says that it has shrunk by 35%. it seems to me that these are generally even optimistic numbers by and large. and maybe not, because you and i never know what the contribution of the shadow sector to our economy is, how it decreases in