today we will talk about the legendary ukrainian conductor oleksandr koshyts, and we will talk about... how culture can become a shield for the people, and how oleksandr kosyts and simon petliura, his friend, understood this, and at the beginning of the 20th century during the ukrainian revolution, they actually created the republican chapel of the ukrainian people's republic, which presented this culture in the west. my guest today is tina peresunko, tina is a researcher of cultural diplomacy of ukraine. is also the author of a wonderful book which it's called simon petlyura's cultural diplomacy, and tina is also the author of the same wonderful film shchedrik, which gained, i understand, more than a million against the russian, shchedrik against the russian world, which gained more than a million, yes, views, half a million in the first month of views, well we will become more than a million today, not to mention the fact that it was shown on tv channels, so... tina, good evening, i congratulate you, thank you for taking the time to come to us today, let's start with why, why you de