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thank you mr oleksandr oleksandr kovalenko, military and political columnist of the information resistance high-quality, interesting analytics, the 15th hour is coming, colleagues, well literally in a moment i will tell you what the situation is in kherson oblast and donetsk region after the shelling by the russians, also about what is currently happening in ukraine and whether saakashvili will be released for treatment abroad, more details literally in a moment in ukraine the 15th and
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army is throwing everything it has at the bakhmut direction , military-political commentator oleksandr kovalenkoout this, however , it will not be possible to capture donbas completely from the occupiers, and even more so when powerful western weapons arrive, let's listen to the broadcast in marathon eden news with us , oleksandr kovalenko, military-political columnist mr. oleksandr, my congratulations , i wanted to start our conversation now, and from the assessment of the operational situation, in particular, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports that the occupiers continue to attack in five directions, these are kupyan, liman, bakhmut, avdiiv, novopavlovsk. at the same time, they strengthen their units primarily in the liman and bakhmut directions , i.e. do we understand correctly that the main thrust of the russian offensive is precisely concentrated on bakhmut on the liman, and from there on it is the slavic kramatorsk such are their goals, yes, let's say that these are their plans, that's true, but the question is whether they will be able to implement their plans, and b
army is throwing everything it has at the bakhmut direction , military-political commentator oleksandr kovalenkoout this, however , it will not be possible to capture donbas completely from the occupiers, and even more so when powerful western weapons arrive, let's listen to the broadcast in marathon eden news with us , oleksandr kovalenko, military-political columnist mr. oleksandr, my congratulations , i wanted to start our conversation now, and from the assessment of the operational...
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analysts summarize well, let's talk about everything in more detail , contact us military expert oleksandr kovalenko p oleksandr i welcome you on the air, did you see a report about vugledar that your sources know about what happened there well, actually it is happening right now. congratulations. well, in fact, there is much more information , because now they are talking directly about the losses of the 155th marine brigade from vladivostok, but in fact, not only this brigade was there, but there were units of the fortieth brigade a separate brigade of marines from petropavlovsk-kamchatsky, and there were also units of the 136th msb, as well as the battalions of the 37th and 36th msb in reserve and the private military company patriot, that is, the number of well there was a much larger group that also suffered quite serious losses, so on today it is the russian occupiers, they once again tried to occupy vugledar for the second time, but the second time they suffered a total fiat scu. by the way, here is a very interesting moment, namely, the 15th separate brigade of marines from vladivostok it is
analysts summarize well, let's talk about everything in more detail , contact us military expert oleksandr kovalenko p oleksandr i welcome you on the air, did you see a report about vugledar that your sources know about what happened there well, actually it is happening right now. congratulations. well, in fact, there is much more information , because now they are talking directly about the losses of the 155th marine brigade from vladivostok, but in fact, not only this brigade was there, but...
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entry of prisoners into the ranks of russian private military companies, so please contact us oleksandr kovalenkoary-political observer information resistance groups, congratulations oleksandr . thanks to ukraine for your permission. i would like to start with the thesis that russian troops can develop offensive operations despite the deterioration of weather conditions in the dress of the week, at least this is what british intelligence believes, we understand that the enemy is concentrating its efforts now in the area of flint, possibly with the aim of attacking there somewhere on the lyman let's say yes, nevertheless, with a large concentration, a large amount of equipment, or maybe here the decisive factor will still be the weather which will be quite specific in the next few weeks which we understand there and accordingly the terrain will it play against the enemy and can we use it first if we say exactly this location with a flint in the direction of the estuary, the russian occupiers have now concentrated a large number of forces and resources there, primarily representatives of the airb
entry of prisoners into the ranks of russian private military companies, so please contact us oleksandr kovalenkoary-political observer information resistance groups, congratulations oleksandr . thanks to ukraine for your permission. i would like to start with the thesis that russian troops can develop offensive operations despite the deterioration of weather conditions in the dress of the week, at least this is what british intelligence believes, we understand that the enemy is concentrating...
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world allagychyn is senseless and merciless, that's basically all that all its main features oleksandr kovalenkor informational opposition are already with us mr. oleksandr good day, mr. oleksandr, what is the current situation in your opinion, said valeriy zaluzhnyi, the commander-in-chief, that in general, i understand that the history of the donbass has stabilized and what does this mean, that is, russia tried a big the offensive continues, the big offensive is unsuccessful in the great offensive. by the way, i will also remind you that yesterday all the russian spinners stay healthy, please confirm that all the russian snakes dared to headlines that uh, the russian foreign ministry is calling for negotiations with ukraine what is happening on the front well, let's say so if we are talking about the general the situation in the war zone, the russians really are now, if they are at some stage of offensive actions, then we can call it the initial stage only conditionally. why ? because not in all directions in which they can to carry out quite active actions, they carry out and exclusively thes
world allagychyn is senseless and merciless, that's basically all that all its main features oleksandr kovalenkor informational opposition are already with us mr. oleksandr good day, mr. oleksandr, what is the current situation in your opinion, said valeriy zaluzhnyi, the commander-in-chief, that in general, i understand that the history of the donbass has stabilized and what does this mean, that is, russia tried a big the offensive continues, the big offensive is unsuccessful in the great...
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behind this, so let's try to understand everything with a military expert in touch with us, oleksandr kovalenko. congratulations, let's start with the drones. i guess you've already analyzed everything, so mr. oleksandr , who do you think is behind everything? good evening. well, i'll say we really had time to analyze it, but we must understand that there are no official statements regarding the use of these bpla drones or other objects of any kind on the territory of the russian federation from the official and authorized there were no ukrainian people to make such statements. so, in fact, today there is no official confirmed information that it was really the armed forces of ukraine. this is exclusively an assumption on the part of the russian side, but even if we talk about the assumption of the russian side about such a massive raid on aa airspace in the first place i want to point out in russian that the federation must understand that most of these objects were located somewhere approximately hundreds of kilometers from the border of ukraine and russia or from the positions of the nearest
behind this, so let's try to understand everything with a military expert in touch with us, oleksandr kovalenko. congratulations, let's start with the drones. i guess you've already analyzed everything, so mr. oleksandr , who do you think is behind everything? good evening. well, i'll say we really had time to analyze it, but we must understand that there are no official statements regarding the use of these bpla drones or other objects of any kind on the territory of the russian federation...
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and then we continue with oleksandr kovalenko. there is an understanding that for russia, they will continuethe same spirit. that is, they do not give up their plans just because the losses are very large, because they still have large resources. the fact that there are still conscripts there, these conscripts are not included in the war actively, they are not yet fighting, let's recruit them, let them fight er-er, that is, they will go er-er with this same same method of action that was shown to them by eh- well, in fact , what kind of beauty is under the bachmouth, what can we say? well , it works, and here's the question. the big account there is f-16 . how complicated is it? weapons are normal small arms are mortars are normal artillery and why did we find ourselves in such a state that this tactic is working, what do we need to do to stop it now well, this is a way of war because war is when people are against people, you know. it is not very good for us because there are losses on our side, that is, how can we change it so that it becomes a uh unsuccessful tactic for russia ? not napec
and then we continue with oleksandr kovalenko. there is an understanding that for russia, they will continuethe same spirit. that is, they do not give up their plans just because the losses are very large, because they still have large resources. the fact that there are still conscripts there, these conscripts are not included in the war actively, they are not yet fighting, let's recruit them, let them fight er-er, that is, they will go er-er with this same same method of action that was shown...
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more detail with oleksiy hetman , military analyst, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war , oleksandr kovalenkolitical observer of the information resistance. greetings , gentlemen . glory to ukraine from loboda. decide how do you assess the situation in general , let's start with the general assessment and then move on to some specific individual districts , the general assessment is the same pavlo bogdanov said about the fact that the number of military personnel of the russian federation is concentrated on ours on the front line, these are, by and large, three groups of large groups, first of all, it is in the luhansk direction, from kupyansk , there are about 120,000 russian military personnel and up to two units of heavy equipment i mean armored personnel carriers and others and up to 700 units of various artillery , the same grouping is located near the coal mine in the north and south of this front line, well, the same thousands of people, the same thousands and units of equipment and somewhere up to 25-30 thousand, now near bakhmut, where the most fierce battles are being fought. they a
more detail with oleksiy hetman , military analyst, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war , oleksandr kovalenkolitical observer of the information resistance. greetings , gentlemen . glory to ukraine from loboda. decide how do you assess the situation in general , let's start with the general assessment and then move on to some specific individual districts , the general assessment is the same pavlo bogdanov said about the fact that the number of military personnel of the russian federation is...
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thank you oleksandr kovalenko , military-political columnist of the group informational resistance, thank you once again, mr. oleksandr, for finding time for us on sunday, and also thank you in advance to refeta chubarov, head of mizhlissya of the crimean tatar people , who is about to appear, because today , february 26, is precisely the day of resistance to the occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol rifat yes, i congratulate you, er, i don't know whether it is necessary to congratulate or sympathize february 26. after all, this is opposition, perhaps it is necessary to congratulate the fact that there was opposition and, first of all, this opposition was from crimean tatar representatives from of the crimean tatar people precisely in those days of the 14th year, i think that here it is necessary to simply express words of support to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in the occupied crimea , the crimean tatar people, to the ethnic ukrainians who remain loyal to the ukrainian state and they do not accept the occupation, but i personally do so
thank you oleksandr kovalenko , military-political columnist of the group informational resistance, thank you once again, mr. oleksandr, for finding time for us on sunday, and also thank you in advance to refeta chubarov, head of mizhlissya of the crimean tatar people , who is about to appear, because today , february 26, is precisely the day of resistance to the occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol rifat yes, i congratulate you, er, i don't know whether it...
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winged bombs to us actually opens up new opportunities for us and what exactly we will ask oleksandr kovalenkoary-political commentator of the information intelligence group, mr. oleksandr. greetings glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good day what about jsdb, there will be questions when , so to speak, the warehouses of the united states of america are emptied with the available weapons . that these are slightly different terms, according to which program we receive gsb, well, you know, if we are talking about the delivery of any weapons under this or that program, according to this or that formula, they are intended for a-but it still seems to me that we we will not always receive for discussions on open sources of full-fledged information or if we are even talking about e-e because of a moron here it is interesting here is the information that ukraine can get them for the first time was published back in 2022, it was constantly talked about and why were they talking about these ammunitions , as if they were still eh of the transition period, such a transitional a-a step from a rocket to t
winged bombs to us actually opens up new opportunities for us and what exactly we will ask oleksandr kovalenkoary-political commentator of the information intelligence group, mr. oleksandr. greetings glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good day what about jsdb, there will be questions when , so to speak, the warehouses of the united states of america are emptied with the available weapons . that these are slightly different terms, according to which program we receive gsb, well, you know, if...
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[000:00:00;00] possible possible yes, thank you this was oleksandr kovalenko, a military expert, a military-political observer of the information resistance , further from i pass the word, er, serhii rudenko, his verdict appeared . congratulations to serhii, congratulations to olga. good day and good health today , february 22, 364 days of heroic action against the ukrainian people against the russian occupiers , today the russian occupiers shelled the center of kharkiv before arriving in kyiv area of the city in the morning for residents of belgorod, voronezh, neighboring ukraine, and not neighboring kazan, ufa, new school, novouralsk and near moscow, an air alarm signal sounded, propagandists write that this is the result of a technical assembly today, according to preliminary data of the armed forces of ukraine from the armed forces of ukraine to port 18 , warehouse 3 in mariupol projectiles flew in. this is reported by the adviser to the city mayor, andryushchenko , we are not waiting for the details of this event , meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukr
[000:00:00;00] possible possible yes, thank you this was oleksandr kovalenko, a military expert, a military-political observer of the information resistance , further from i pass the word, er, serhii rudenko, his verdict appeared . congratulations to serhii, congratulations to olga. good day and good health today , february 22, 364 days of heroic action against the ukrainian people against the russian occupiers , today the russian occupiers shelled the center of kharkiv before arriving in kyiv...
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but these drones could be too visible and slow for a very short time - says military observer oleksandr kovalenkothey are used as shock and this is a very tasty target for our air defense and also our manpads calculations against air defense calculations and that's why they won't risk mahajers 6 and another one like this is worth almost a hundred kamikaze drones several million dollars but for reconnaissance, the mohajirishi will agree, they can transmit information online about detected targets with the subsequent guidance of kamikaze drones or missiles, the owner of what this drone was created for is this ball under the nose part, this is the flier system , this ball is located here movable means that there are several camera lenses in it. it is an optoelectronic camera, and sometimes even two such cameras, an infrared camera, so that it can work both during the day and at night in addition, there is a laser range finder and a laser ammunition guidance system. aviation expert vale symonenko believes that the enemy will use these drones in the front-line territory and for reconnaissance and for
but these drones could be too visible and slow for a very short time - says military observer oleksandr kovalenkothey are used as shock and this is a very tasty target for our air defense and also our manpads calculations against air defense calculations and that's why they won't risk mahajers 6 and another one like this is worth almost a hundred kamikaze drones several million dollars but for reconnaissance, the mohajirishi will agree, they can transmit information online about detected...
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kg or two anti-tank missiles, the rounds are too visible and slow - says military observer oleksandr kovalenkoif it is used as a shock and here it is a very tasty target for our air defense and our manpads calculations against the calculations of air defense, that’s why they won’t risk mahajers 6, and another one like this is worth almost as much as kamikaze drones, several million dollars. but for intelligence, the mahajers will agree that they can transmit information to online mode about detected targets with the subsequent guidance of kamikaze drones or missiles, the owner of what this drone was created for is this ball under the nose part , this is the flair system, they are located here. even two such cameras, an infrared camera so that it can work both day and night, in addition, there is a laser range finder and a laser ammunition guidance system, an aviation expert in the atoria will try both for reconnaissance and for strikes to destroy tanks from the sky, but there the mohajer can also be eliminated with manpads shaheds or as they are called flying mopeds ukraine saw for the first t
kg or two anti-tank missiles, the rounds are too visible and slow - says military observer oleksandr kovalenkoif it is used as a shock and here it is a very tasty target for our air defense and our manpads calculations against the calculations of air defense, that’s why they won’t risk mahajers 6, and another one like this is worth almost as much as kamikaze drones, several million dollars. but for intelligence, the mahajers will agree that they can transmit information to online mode about...
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important the events of this week, of course , we will start with the events at the front, we have oleksandr kovalenkothe military-political viewer of the information resistance group and andriy ryzhenko, an expert of the center of defense strategies, a captain of the first rank of the reserve e-e sasu and deputy chief of staff of the naval forces of ukraine in the years 2004-20. greetings , friends. good day, oleksandr, mr. andriy , so let's take a look at the beginning. what is happening in the eastern direction of bakhmutka what our government and our troops call the fortress, what is the situation there and in principle, how will events develop in the future, please, mr. oleksandr well, bakhmut is really a fortress because well, it is almost the ninth month we are neutralizing quite a large resource there russian occupiers, but now we hear a large number of e-e warnings from our international partners and that bakhmut should be left, although in fact if we look at bakhmut precisely as the role of e-e traps on the donetsk bridgehead, the main trap for the russian occupation forces and its resource
important the events of this week, of course , we will start with the events at the front, we have oleksandr kovalenkothe military-political viewer of the information resistance group and andriy ryzhenko, an expert of the center of defense strategies, a captain of the first rank of the reserve e-e sasu and deputy chief of staff of the naval forces of ukraine in the years 2004-20. greetings , friends. good day, oleksandr, mr. andriy , so let's take a look at the beginning. what is happening in...
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thank you very much oleksandr kovalenko , military-political columnist of the information resistance group, it was on radio svoboda thank you well, i remind you, if you watch us on the internet, like this broadcast in this way, support our work and the youtube algorithm works in this way what the more likes and comments, the more people learn about the freedom of life well and one more topic the ministry of foreign affairs in france urged its citizens to urgently leave the territory of belarus due to the war in ukraine . the french foreign ministry noted that under the conditions of russia's armed offensive against ukraine and the closure of belarusian airspace, any trips to belarus are formally not welcome. is it possible for russia to launch a second attack on ukraine from the territory of belarus? the majority of the development says that this is unlikely at the moment , but ukraine is preparing for all possible scenarios, but in the rivne region near the belarusian border, the regional defense forces conducted joint exercises and worked out defense scenarios in case of a possible
thank you very much oleksandr kovalenko , military-political columnist of the information resistance group, it was on radio svoboda thank you well, i remind you, if you watch us on the internet, like this broadcast in this way, support our work and the youtube algorithm works in this way what the more likes and comments, the more people learn about the freedom of life well and one more topic the ministry of foreign affairs in france urged its citizens to urgently leave the territory of belarus...
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oleksandr oleksandr kovalenko, military-political columnist of the group, informational resistance, always high-quality, interesting analytics arrives at 3:00 p.m. greetings colleagues, well, literally in a moment i will tell you what the situation is in the kherson region and donetsk region after the shelling by the russians, also about what is currently happening with the light in ukraine and whether saakashvili will be released for treatment abroad more details literally in a moment in ukraine the 15th and for your attention news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers, we begin with the situation in different regions of our country. russian occupiers continue to shell medical facilities in the kherson region. this time, a hospital in boryslav was targeted. as a result of a hit , an employee was injured. doctors are fighting for his life . the doctors reported to the regional military administration there that they noted that the enemy shells also hit the boiler room that supplied the hospital with heat. aid in boryslav one driver was ki
oleksandr oleksandr kovalenko, military-political columnist of the group, informational resistance, always high-quality, interesting analytics arrives at 3:00 p.m. greetings colleagues, well, literally in a moment i will tell you what the situation is in the kherson region and donetsk region after the shelling by the russians, also about what is currently happening with the light in ukraine and whether saakashvili will be released for treatment abroad more details literally in a moment in...
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oleksandr kovalenko , the military-political council or groups, the information resistance, we are in. i am constantly trying to maintain some kind of drama. i don’t know if it will work . the syrian general came to bakhmut and some people say what this means. we have huge problems there and therefore we need to be strengthened, if only emotionally, by the presence of the general. they say otherwise on the contrary, they calm down, they say that this just shows that everything is fine, he wouldn’t have gone. i wouldn’t have everything fine, and ukraine is also holding fast near bakhmut, and in other directions , the presence of a general on the front line, what does that mean ? kovalenko. well, good day, something i will try something 50 for 50 that's right take this position and talk about the fact that everything is fine near bahmut - no, that's not true it's not like that near bahmut, it's a very difficult situation, i would even say that it's the most difficult situation in general with of the entire war zone, but this one a difficult situation, it is not critical , it is not crit
oleksandr kovalenko , the military-political council or groups, the information resistance, we are in. i am constantly trying to maintain some kind of drama. i don’t know if it will work . the syrian general came to bakhmut and some people say what this means. we have huge problems there and therefore we need to be strengthened, if only emotionally, by the presence of the general. they say otherwise on the contrary, they calm down, they say that this just shows that everything is fine, he...
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exclusively with an infantry component is also very difficult oleksandr, thank you very much oleksandr kovalenkopolitical columnist of the information resistance group, we talked about the prospects of the ukrainian counteroffensive and the russian offensive in this war, thank you very much well, now about mariupol , a series of explosions also rang out in the occupied mariupol of the donetsk region, as reported by the mariupol city council, the first explosion occurred at 10:30 p.m. the day before, and after that there were 11 more explosions at the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine , the explosions in mariupol are not commented on. and according to the data of the mariupol city council, which is not physically located in mariupol, but obviously can have its sources there, the results there stated that as a result of these explosions , the ammunition of the russian military was destroyed , it is also reported that after a series of explosions in the city, the russian occupiers raised their planes into the sky and that at least two explosions of 12 this was the work of the russian air
exclusively with an infantry component is also very difficult oleksandr, thank you very much oleksandr kovalenkopolitical columnist of the information resistance group, we talked about the prospects of the ukrainian counteroffensive and the russian offensive in this war, thank you very much well, now about mariupol , a series of explosions also rang out in the occupied mariupol of the donetsk region, as reported by the mariupol city council, the first explosion occurred at 10:30 p.m. the day...
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is possible to go from the west military observer of the initiative informative opposition oleksandr kovalenkoays that if the chinese do transfer weapons to them to train the russian mobilized, they can also send them to storage warehouses, storage centers, well, there is no problem with this, the issue of preparing new crews and units, because they have a problem with this now, they are currently mobilizing resources, they do not have professional crews in china , the information about arming the russian federation is denied by artem zyabkin, public news for almost a month , the ukrainian military has been learning to operate british armored vehicles on the training grounds of the united kingdom, the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine are studying challenger tanks, bulldog armored personnel carriers and self-propelled s90 artillery installations, according to the preliminary information of the deputy minister of defense of great britain alex chalka, 14 challengers will be in ukraine as early as next month the military is training, what is the difference between british tanks and german l
is possible to go from the west military observer of the initiative informative opposition oleksandr kovalenkoays that if the chinese do transfer weapons to them to train the russian mobilized, they can also send them to storage warehouses, storage centers, well, there is no problem with this, the issue of preparing new crews and units, because they have a problem with this now, they are currently mobilizing resources, they do not have professional crews in china , the information about arming...
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, spain and germany, according to the military observer of the information resistance group oleksandr kovalenkosed either on the f16 from the usa or on the eurofighter iphone , this will depend on the training of the pilots. well, for example, the squadron of european 16 western equipment needs a special infrastructure, in particular airstrips, which delays the transfer of such weapons, says kovalenko, that is why partners can first provide soviet-made aircraft, we will continue to receive mig-29, they are present in eastern europe, but we must understand that it is let's say that the plane was forgotten even a generation ago, and it is a question of replacement, so otherwise it will be relevant, and now it is sexy. it was a few years ago in ukraine. artillery, according to the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, the armed forces need modern aircraft to launch a counteroffensive. on february 10, during a telethon, the spokesman of the air force of the ukrainian armed forces, yuriy hnat, said that the defense forces are already preparing infrastructure for them. he told about this
, spain and germany, according to the military observer of the information resistance group oleksandr kovalenkosed either on the f16 from the usa or on the eurofighter iphone , this will depend on the training of the pilots. well, for example, the squadron of european 16 western equipment needs a special infrastructure, in particular airstrips, which delays the transfer of such weapons, says kovalenko, that is why partners can first provide soviet-made aircraft, we will continue to receive...
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will discuss further with a military expert , oleksandr, a military-political commentator of the information resistance group, joins the broadcast kovalenkogreetings. good evening. we just spoke with a military officer who is directly in the direction of bakhmut, and which scenario of the development of events in the east are you inclined to, well, judging by all the news that we will now receive from open data? well, what about the russian occupation the troops one way or another but greedily received an order to prevent offensive actions, that is, to intensify their actions, this is a fact, we can talk about it, but did this offensive begin with full understanding, this is another question, and what is its efficiency is also another question why because and the three main bridgeheads behind which, relatively speaking, offensive actions of the russian occupiers can be carried out are the zaporizhia region , part of it is occupied, and the donetsk bridgehead is also luhansk region, and they must understand that the forces and means of the russian occupiers are currently present in the zaporizhia region side that are more capable of conduc
will discuss further with a military expert , oleksandr, a military-political commentator of the information resistance group, joins the broadcast kovalenkogreetings. good evening. we just spoke with a military officer who is directly in the direction of bakhmut, and which scenario of the development of events in the east are you inclined to, well, judging by all the news that we will now receive from open data? well, what about the russian occupation the troops one way or another but greedily...