should have been transferred in the process of exchange thank you for this clarification oleksandr pa vlichenko director of the ukrainian helsinki union for rights man was with us we are in touch well and we are moving on, the interesting reaction of world leaders to the statements of vladimir putin and to the tectonic shifts in the relations between ukraine and the north atlantic alliance i think that the next guest knows about this better than anyone, and this is oleksandr mereshko, people's deputy of ukraine , chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation, congratulations, mr. oleksandr, good day, good afternoon, mr. oleksandr, what is your reaction, or for you, this is a huge surprise for us christina is surprised that today the ukrainian president, the head of the ukrainian parliament and the head of the ukrainian government signed this appeal to nato, what will be the consequences for ukraine, for our society, for our, for our army, what do we expect from nato in response ? you know, i would say that this is a very long-awaited surprise, at