thank you very much, oleksandr pavlichenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for humanatulate mr. zakharov if you see him, he is one of the founders. of your organization, as far as i remember, and now we are again talking about our rear problems or not problems, about successes or failures, about the economy in 2024, we will to talk with oleh penzen penzeny , an economist, a member of the economic discussion club, that's exactly what we're going to discuss, mr. oleg, thank you for finding time for us, good health to you, we saw each other, we used to see you more often than now, yes. we have not seen each other since the beginning of the war, look, i will try to ask such simplified questions, and first i will inform the audience that the questions will be, well, as if this is money in your pockets, ladies and gentlemen, because the budget of ukraine is actually a pocket of ukraine, how much money is there, like in your family, or in your family, or in my family.