oleksandr sushko , a political scientist and an internationalist. this is what we are here for, we will emphasize because, among other things , the executive director of the international revival fund , we will not talk about the revival fund today, unfortunately. good health , mr. oleksandr. thank you for finding time for us. and so the question is if you can hear us, i hope you can hear me yes, i hear you, look, there is such a theory so far, we have not seen it, that after the end of the war or the hot phase of the war, i imagine that ukraine can join nato. how do you imagine it, the actual one? conditionally, i would like it to be definitely there in the second dk, and in june 2023, the war ended, and so what happens next in the sense of our nato perspectives, so the war ended there on june 17 or there on june 20, it ended at once, what happens on june 21, uh, i think that a viable scenario involves, er, such an approach that everything should be decided before the war ends, because if we postpone certain decisions until the end of the war, then

oleksandr oleksandr sushko, executive director of the international renaissance an international politicalscientist was with us. thank you for the conversation, we are moving on, now we will talk about our other neighbors, the poles, michal kaminsky, and this is marshal oksana, the republic of poland and members of the european parliament of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations are joining our broadcast. thanks to the heroes of ukraine, michal was waving such an interesting law in poland, which is proposed to be amended . the president of poland, panduda, is proposing amendments to this law about russian influence, and even the united states is worried and says that this is because i apologize for the russian language , which is not , by no means, the fact that i am under russian influence. and the party today takes an absolutely correct position in relation to ukraine , and we, as an opposition, have always supported the military president and the polish government in this regard, in terms of military, political, and political support for ukraine well, on the other hand, the reason w

uncluttered with all kinds of poetry, but for now we will move on to the prose of life, so to speak, oleksandr sushkoional appears on our air, mr. oleksandr. congratulations. good day, mr. oleksandr, there are a lot of suggestions regarding about how peace should come in ukraine , er, even from indonesia, proposals are already being heard , saying, stop shooting, withdraw - withdraw both armies in different directions and there is as if the proposal is really to introduce a peacekeeping contingent on the front line that is now, i don’t know, there now it seems like it’s happening , it’s now afraid to make a mistake in singapore , it seems like a summit of asian countries, well less, but there are really a lot of proposals of a weightier one in china, but it seems like -e likuwap special representative as far as i understand he admitted that the first attempt of the mission turned out to be a failure . can we consider that any of those e-e proposals are really such that they can play their role well, in fact, we see a whole series of proposals which proceed from a very simple approach, then we need to