scientists, and we already have one of the authors of this particular graphic with us, this is oleksiy bolderivmolecular biologist, neurophysiologist, oleksiy, glad to see you, good morning, it's oleksiy and me. i know her a little personally, and that’s why i’m actually really glad to see oleksia as a neurophysiologist and a molecular biologist, in fact, it’s tangential to this story , how did this idea come about, well, in general, i ’ve been interested in history for a long time, since school days, but it’s such an amateur, and then somehow working on the hearts of fish in singapore. my supervisor there is volodymyr korysh, a well-known singaporean researcher from zhytomyr, now he is in poland, he told me, sitting under such a large sprawling tropical rambutan tree, the story of boris balinsky, this is one of the dots on this graph that i marked, he was a ... biologist, zoologist, embryologist, he worked in kyiv, just this interwar period at the academy sciences, taught at the university, first gave a ukrainian lecture on zoology at kyiv university, and he emigrated from ukraine, er, such a