apc of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on finance, tax and customs policy, oleksiy ustenkoon this topic we will talk with ivan, we must be an expert in international economics, mr. ivan, congratulations, congratulations , how long do you remember oleg, yes, good morning based on these figures, in particular with regard to the state debt, let's take the last 10 years, er, experts consider this temporary component, if we take the 12th year, the state board set there more than 60 billion dollars 64, it seems that it grew every year, the trend was somewhere around 8 somewhere around six, somewhere on 10 billion, but the 23rd year is unprecedented because the national debt will exceed the country's gdp for the first time. that is, all the goods and services that will be produced in the 23rd year will be less than the national debt. well, of course, in our country, war is one of the most - such more important reasons factors, more than half of our budget is spent on the defense sector. but is this a threat to our economy, to our ability of the country as a whole, you know right a