take part in this forum, the forum will take place in ivano-frankivsk 14-15 october, this is olga donnechankalunteer, writer and bart. ms. olga, we congratulate you, good afternoon, ms. olya, you have, god, i don't know. your personal story is interesting, but you lived in donetsk before the beginning of the russian aggression, and you are a donetsk woman, this is in fact, this is your pseudonym to tell people where you are from, and which city you left, you left because you had a pro-ukrainian position , fled together with the family, more, well, it actually looked more like an escape, because your husband was on the lists of occupiers, on the lists of executioners, ah, well, you are not you have been living in donetsk since 2014, since 2014, since july, that is, you are from that first wave , relatively speaking, i am the first wave of immigrants, that is, we already have experience, and these are actually different waves, because then people had to a large extent after all, there was some choice to a certain extent or not, so it was possible to leave russia calmly, it was possible. was to