through this soft power, but that's how we see now, with the case of the norwegian film festival in oli olegamer many as five of our e- there are very cool writers they refused to take part there because of the participation of russian writers eh well, we wanted to talk about it with love yakymchuk as far as i understand she won't be there she won't pick up the phone well we will try to talk about it further with the artists i think serhii zhadan sofia andruhovych could you explain your position well enough, because i will repeat myself once again, five very cool speakers, smart people, uh, talented writers, writers, ah, well, they refused to go to this festival and tell something about i wanted them to agree and explain ukraine because our er is not love. let's say this to russian oppositionists and russian er artists, how they call themselves oppositional liberals is incomprehensible to the majority of the civilized world, and that's why we need to explain it constantly instead. of course, it is the russians who are showing this very vividly. they are constantly promoting their messages, they