inside the embassy it shows a man destroying portraits of the kim family for joining me now is oliver hotham managing editor of news dot org oliver this is such a strange story what is going on here. well you know it's difficult to say when we first heard about this news it was just the u.s. to go ok summit with kicking off and annoy and it really seemed quite unusual quite unprecedented there's never really been something like this happen as a north korean embassy anywhere in the world and then slowly information becomes trickle out we began to hear from the spanish authorities that they had identified a socially an underground human rights organization as you said called a civil defense and that organization came out and took responsibility and then we've had the north koreans now coming out response calling it a terrorist attack but still a lot of the details remain sketchy you know the spanish authorities have said the members of the most critical sistar were beaten up and gagged one of them was put under pressure to defect but as yet we haven't really heard all that much from the group