oliver twist fagan and oliver twist it all look so so insanely so ok well let's go over this whole program what happened in the united kingdom they passed a program called a bounce back loan program and they had to introduce this because a reasonably back in march and april they said ok the government i.e. the taxpayer will cover 80 percent of the loan cost and you the banks issuing because the private banks are the conduit the middleman you the private banks will have to eat the 20 percent you have to take the risk of the 20 percent of us no bank was willing to loan to the small and medium sized enterprises that was too risky for them they saw ahead they have data on statistics and look at the at that at the case of what happens with a pandemic and they were the honest ones and said no that's a risk of total wipe out for us we're not going to do it so the taxpayer had to bail out they had to offer a 100 percent guarantee for these lines and so at the same time some part of the unit of the government organizing this did say well this is a recipe for fraud and what happened is a who

if anybody knows "oliver twist," i was cast as fagin.as just counting my lines he doesn't even enter until the last scene of the first act. i was like, how are you going to tell me i'm the lead of a a show named "oliver" and i'm not playing oliver >> jimmy: oliver >> but that is when i discovered the power of a star entrance, darling. because the children were waiting for me i didn't realize that. i didn't understand that >> jimmy: oh, my gosh. this is ridiculous >> the children were waiting for me at 13, i arrived on the stage to applause, darling >> jimmy: i don't think there's anything more, you get that special feeling when a kid is doing "oliver," and they sing "where is love." just the voice, just so little >> yeah, but for me, i'm reviewing the situation, an octave up in a pittsburgh/cockney accent. there is video, and i'm sure someone will post it now >> jimmy: next time you come on, we got to play that. billy, you've also been using your platform to encourage people to vote >> yes >> jimmy: like your beautiful blazer says. and b

ceos begs for help, not the vision of "oliver twist" but they need help. bring in danny meyer founder of hospitality square group and "new york times" columnist and host of squawk box. andrew, what do you make of the latest back and forth on relief? >> look, i think ultimately you need a big deal. the politics of a small deal are going to be vast and you're going to be dealing with the politics of that for a very long time. if the airlines are saved but small businesses are not, if small businesses are saved but the unemployed are not given anything, if cities that are running into trouble aren't given anything, but big companies are, it just becomes a morass. and so you really do from a political perspective, long term, i think we saw this in 2008 with the financial crisis when the banks were saved, we lived with that for ten years. so i think you want an overall package. frankly, i think it is probably actually in both parties' best interest to do it and i do wonder whether democrats will get blamed if something doesn't happen. >> if you just help big bu