joining me live the reverend oliver white. great to have you here. say you're a man ahead of your time on the beeis because in 2005 you voted in favor of marriage equality. fast forward to today you, may lose your church. if you had to do it all over again, would you make that statement decision back in 2005 and support it up until this day? >> i would definitely do the same thing all over again. this is something i believe in strongly, marriage equality, and i cannot imagine making a different decision, even though i know now something i didn't know back then how bad it would hurt. but i would still make the same decision. it's a matter of principle. >> again, the recent poll showing that 59% of african-americans do support marriage equality and that's a large jump from 41% of last summer. now that we have president obama that has said he's fully evolved and endorses marriage equal, colin powell, naacp, supporting marriage equality, why do you think attendance hasn't improves at your church at all? >> well, there's -- there are a couple of reasons t

. >> reporter: reverend oliver white voted in favor of accepting same-sex marriage at the 2005 national church of christ. the vote was historic. the fallout, immediate. white lost two-thirds of his predominantly african-american congregation. >> they thought i was a heretic, that i was not leading them to christ. >> reporter: seven years later, white's congregation still has not come back. i was invited to watch what could be the last service before the church closes its doors for good. what i saw was a far cry from the days when the seats were full. when services started a few minutes ago, there were only about 20 people in the pews. a few people have come in since then. but more than half attending today are visitors. the church is now in financial ruin. the few members that still remain say they couldn't overcome a stigma. >> just hush hush, you don't talk about it. >> right. >> if you're gay, you're wrong. it is very much -- very prevalent in the black church that you do not talk about it. >> reporter: you pray about this a lot? >> every day. >> reporter: what do you pray for right

the reverend oliver white of the grace community united church in st. paul, minnesota. attle to keep his church open. most of white's congregation left him after he came out in support of same-sex marriage in 2005. since then, though, he'd been trying to keep his church financially afloat. he tonight tells us he couldn't raise the money. tomorrow, he'll start looking for a new church and build a new congregation. someone reached out to him and said, look, i'll give you the money if you take back what you said about gay marriage. he refused to do it. reverend white tells us that he does not regret standing up for what he believes in. >>> just days before government-backed student loans were scheduled to return to their rate of 6.8%, congress formally approved an extension of the current 3.4% rate, which was supposed to be a temporary taxpayer-backed rate. the u.s. department of education tells "outfront" that as of last september, there were 37 million active federal student loan borrowers. they owed about $850 billion. about $5.4 million of them have loans in default whi

. >> reporter: reverend oliver white voted in favor of accepting same-sex marriage at the 2005 nationale united church of christ. the vote was historic. the fallout immediate. white lost two-thirds of his predominantly african-american congregation. >> they thought i was a heretic, that i was not leading them to christ. >> reporter: what have you learned about attitudes out there that you didn't know before? >> that we are more fundamentally religious than i ever dreamed. >> reporter: seven years later white's congregation still has not come back. i was invited to watch what could be the last service before the church closes its doors for good. what i saw was a far cry from the days when the seats were full. when services started just a few minutes ago, there were only about 20 people in the pews. a few people have come in since then, but more than half the people attending today are visitors. the church is now in financial ruin. the few members that still remain say they couldn't overcome a stigma. >> it is hush-hush, you don't talk about it. if you're gay, you're wrong, and it is very

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oliver continued his ongoing conversation with herman cain whereç he ran throh more fake white houseios in a series titled herman cain, an american presidency. >> the crisis. >> okay. sir. reports are coming in that nicolas cage has broken in to the national archives and has stolen the constitution of the united states. look into that camera and convince nicolas cage to give that constitution back. >> nicholas, bring back our constitution! i respect you, cage, but get a grip. i've instructed the united states military, the fbi, the cia, to do everything in their power to bring that constitution back. >> okay, sir. i have an update. good news and bad news. which do you want first? >> let's start with the good news. >> good news is, you got him, congratulations, sir. >> we've got him. >> do you want the bad news? >> yes. >> he didn't have the constitution, sir. >> he didn't have it? he didn't have the constitution? >> no, he didn't have it. so you now have to address nicolas cage fans all over the world and explain to him why you killed their favorite actor, three, two, one, go.ç >> m

chronicles a trip she took with a liberal comedian where they went everywhere from the white house to local olivers to pro-choice activists. joining me is megan mccain, co-author of the newly released "america you sexy pitch", a love letter to freedom. and that's the last time i'm going to say that. it's one of these hot topic books. what you did with michael ian black. you guys made quite the couple this interesting comedic liberal and then there's you, the conservative commentator. how did you find each other? how did you get along? >> we actually -- when we first went on the road trip, we didn't get along at all. i said it was the longest first date of my entire life. didn't know each other at all. we've become quite good friends, with anyone you spend a month with. my liberal brother from another mother at this point. >> who did you talk to? >> we went to almost 20 different states and talked to everything from exotic dancers, muslims, canny bus users, politicians, hard core christians, hard core orthodox jewish people. every kind of person we could find. truck drivers, women truck drivers, w

oliver fein, i was going to say it is precisely the calculation that white -- the person who is insuredgoing to have to pay that is really at issue. i worry in this law that what is going happen is more and more people will become under insured. that the deductibles will go up, that the co-payments >> go up, and that people who are presently getting really good insurance through their employer may find their employer begins to shift more and more of those costs. the will shift those costs on to the worker. >> we have to take a break and when we come back, we will be joined by the head of the health care program in vermont, which is poised to become the first single payer state. stay with us. ♪ [music break] ♪ [music break] >> this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. it is the morning after the supreme court upheld president of loomis affordable health care at -- president obama is affordable health care act. we're joined by wendell potter, dr. oliver fein, and jodi jacobson. i want to go back to jodi to ask about the right

white a house will get to the bottom of it. and i have confidence thatce president obama will had --il >> l do you see any co--- correlation with the oliver north?rt >> i do, it's a good point.od i see correlation to that, to watergate, and he i see correlation -- this is in many way, the toxicity is bad.is the u.s. government was involved in giving arms and potentially large quantities of arms. being advanced for this. i don't know how ryan feels, but it's bizarre, we want to trackt the arms back to the bigger dogg going up the food chain. holder takes the arrogant, he's more arrogant than thethan president. >> give you about five seconds. >> coming from a guy in the republican party whose party was responsible for the iran contraa affair, that seems to be a faira analogy. the attorney general did what he needed to do, and i wish the republicans would focus on jobs rather than the witch hunts. >> we've established that bothtt sides of the aisle have done this. so guys, thank you both. >>> should maryland get a new casino? and should existing slot locations be allowed to have table games? both issues on the table. what was billed as the f

the white house extending an olive branch to the taliban?g that the obama administration is considering moving prisoners from guantanamo bay to a detention center in afghanistan. all in an effort to restart peace talks with that previous terror group. the prisoners, mostly taliban fighters who were captured at the beginning of the afghan war back in 2001. critics say in moving them back to afghanistan soil would pose a major security threat, it will ultimately be up to defense secretary leon panetta to decide where they go. he resigned from the e.p.a. after making controversial remarks comparing the agency's policy to roman crucifixion and now, he has a new gig. environmental advocacy group announcing he'll be joining their staff as a spokesman against coal powered plants. this bride-to-be loses her engagement ring on the train. brooke benay taking off her 2 carat pink sapphire ring to put on some hand lotion not noticing until she was half way to her job it wasn't with her anymore. >> i went to get on to the subway to hold on to the bar and

oliver stone. >> i'm not an activist, i'm outspoken. i'm a dramatist. >> all about civil war that could inflame the middle east seems closer by the day. white house critics insist the white house should do more from the country facing attacks. the latest atrocity, activist opposed to his regime say they unleashed sectarian militias on the tiny farming town. as many as 78 civilians, mostly women and children were reportedly massacred. those reports and these pictures have not yet been confirmed. u.n. observers were first stopped by syrian security forces and attacked with small arms fire. in istanbul hillary clinton condemned the massacre and demanded an end to the regime. >> the regime sponsored violence is unconscionable. assad has doubled down and syria will not, cannot be peaceful stabilizing or certainly democratic until assad goes. >> i am joined by marc beginsburg former u.s. ambassador to morocco to president carter and now senior vice president at apco international. ambassador thank you for joining us. two weeks ago, we spoke on this very issue. at the time, you said it would get get worse if there not a firmer, more res lute u.s.

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olive oil. we're going to add a little bit of grill eed pineapple. some black beans. you can use fresh black beans or canned, since it's easier for the home. this is the whitecky. and fresh cilantro. >> and you're putting it all in there. >> saute it up. and now we have a beautiful black bean and pineapple rice. this is south american shrimp. pink shrimp basically with head and tail on. >> is it sweeter? >> tends to be a little bit sweeter and fresher taste. >> all right. this is what you're getting here. >> george. >> so we've got some wonderful greens from the market, ripe tomatoes, cucumbers, onions, red bell peppers, parsley and garlic. we're going to mix all the ingredients in there. >> nice. >> making a tomato salad that's going to be marinated. >> before you even put it in the blender, it looks great. >> exactly. >> and then we're adding a lot of portuguese olive oil. >> okay. >> and portuguese olive oil, is it nuttier, what do you like about it? >> this version is sweet. >> okay. >> very fruity. very low acidity. doesn't overpower. you really want the essence of the tomato to come through. >> okay. >> and then you've got some sherry vinegar. >> hmm.

olive garden. salad bar plates are very small. i can't keep going back. >> 26 past the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." with us now, chief whiterespondent for politico mike allen with the morning playbook. we've been talking about the fast and furious controversy, mike. tell us a little bit about how politico is looking at the dynamic evolving between the president and speaker boehner. >> mika, but first, happy friday. >> oh, thank you mike. >> we really need that. >> how was the birthday yesterday? >> how was your birthday yesterday, mike? >> i have my birthday suit here. >> oh. >> from al lane, got the ticket pocket. it's tight. >> oh. okay. >> i love it! hey, i don't know what it means but i love it. >> birthday suit naked? >> what's a ticket pocket? >> let me ask you, why don't you put your own birthday in the playbook? it's sort of self-indulgent but -- >> i do. my brother scott was born a year to the day after me, so i was born on june 24th, 1964, he was born on june 24th, 1965. my mother always said he was your first birthday present. i was like couldn't i have a scooter. it's fun. we celebrate together scott's birthday