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olivia sterns, nbc news, georgia. >> things do add up. >>> we're back in a moment with how fast food workers were tricked into vandalizing their own restaurant. >>> days after bruce springsteen canceled a north carolina concert in protest of that state's so-called bathroom law, what he and others have called anti-lgbt bigotry, canadian rocker bryan adams is following suit further south. adams has canceled an upcoming show in mississippi, citing that state's new law that allows religious groups and some businesses to refuse service to gay couples. the mississippi law will take effect july 1st. >>> caught on camera, panicked workers at a minnesota burger king smashing out their own windows. police say they were tricked by a prankster claiming to be a fire official, who said there was a gas leak inside and the windows had to be busted out to prevent an explosion. similar pranks have been pulled at restaurants in oklahoma and california, costing thousands in damage. >>> when we come back, how prince william and kate are using their royal tour to retrace princess diana's steps nearly a qu
olivia sterns, nbc news, georgia. >> things do add up. >>> we're back in a moment with how fast food workers were tricked into vandalizing their own restaurant. >>> days after bruce springsteen canceled a north carolina concert in protest of that state's so-called bathroom law, what he and others have called anti-lgbt bigotry, canadian rocker bryan adams is following suit further south. adams has canceled an upcoming show in mississippi, citing that state's new law that...
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nbc's olivia sterns found new companies ready to help slash away thousands in repayments. >> i knew there was no way she could afford it on her own. >> reporter: colleen mccallum always knew that college for her daughter olivia wouldn't be cheap. >> did you have any idea you would be $50,000 in debt three years later? >> i kind of suspected something like that. >> reporter: but what the tulsa, oklahoma, mom didn't suspect was that she'd be paying 6% to 8% interest to help olivia with her $33,000 tuition to arizona state. >> what was the breaking point for you? >> when i saw that i had paid $4,000 in interest in 2015, none of which went towards the principal. i was pretty outraged. >> reporter: colleen went online and realized she had options, including a new crop of companies that specialize in refinancing stund debt. she managed to cut her loans from 6% to 8% to just 4.5%. >> what a lot of people don't know is for every $3 in student loans outstanding, $1 to be refinanced to a lower rate. >> reporter: the ceo of credible says the average user cuts the interest on their loan by 37%. credi
nbc's olivia sterns found new companies ready to help slash away thousands in repayments. >> i knew there was no way she could afford it on her own. >> reporter: colleen mccallum always knew that college for her daughter olivia wouldn't be cheap. >> did you have any idea you would be $50,000 in debt three years later? >> i kind of suspected something like that. >> reporter: but what the tulsa, oklahoma, mom didn't suspect was that she'd be paying 6% to 8% interest...
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but as nbc's olivia sterns found out, they're now considered safer. >> reporter: you've probably seen the ads on tv. >> a reverse mortgage is a great program. >> reporter: promises to save big with a reverse mortgage, a loan that lets you borrow against the value of your house. thanks to new government regulations, reverse mortgages are now actually harder to get. and with tougher lending standards in place, they're actually becoming less controversial and more popular. still, experts warn they're not for everybody. >> we love it. it's our dream home. >> reporter: for this couple, a reverse mortgage was the solution to stay put. after 30 years and four kids, the couple couldn't imagine living anywhere else. but when the downturn hit, they couldn't afford to stay. >> it was scary. it was devastating. >> reporter: that's when they decided to get a reverse mortgage. were you worried about the risks of getting a reverse mortgage? >> sure, we were concerned. but we did a lot of education. >> reporter: what's changed? new limits on how much you can borrow. stricter requirements to qualify,
but as nbc's olivia sterns found out, they're now considered safer. >> reporter: you've probably seen the ads on tv. >> a reverse mortgage is a great program. >> reporter: promises to save big with a reverse mortgage, a loan that lets you borrow against the value of your house. thanks to new government regulations, reverse mortgages are now actually harder to get. and with tougher lending standards in place, they're actually becoming less controversial and more popular. still,...
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olivia sterns, nbc news, new york. >>> we're back in a moment with the army captain achieving no womann history has before. >>> we're now just 100 days away from the 2016 summer olympic games in rio. the torch now officially on its way to brazil. but there's much more to be done before it arrives. expected to return with team usa swimmer michael phelps who opened up to nbc news about his downward spiral after the london games, and his decision to compete again. we get more from nbc's bob costas. >> reporter: this summer the world's best athletes will descend on rio. but a variety of issues loom over these olympics. the country is still dealing with the impact of the zika virus, and concerns about water quality. brazil's economy not long ago vibrant is now crumbling. and its president rousseff is facing impeachment. soccer legend pe le considered a favorite to light the caldron at the opening ceremony is optimistic his country can deliver a successful games. >> this moment is very, very important. >> reporter: leading team usa is michael phelps who said he was done following the london
olivia sterns, nbc news, new york. >>> we're back in a moment with the army captain achieving no womann history has before. >>> we're now just 100 days away from the 2016 summer olympic games in rio. the torch now officially on its way to brazil. but there's much more to be done before it arrives. expected to return with team usa swimmer michael phelps who opened up to nbc news about his downward spiral after the london games, and his decision to compete again. we get more...
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olivia sterns has the story. >> reporter: it is a typical weekend drive for david kiter.it this twice and the car takes over. >> reporter: he's not doing the driving, the computer in his tesla is. >> once you use it, you'll never want to go back. >> reporter: believe it or not, we're all getting used to it. it is artificial intelligence, which is steering this car. >> open the pod bay doors. >> i'm sorry, dave. i'm afraid i can't do that. >> reporter: that's right, the fuel for big screen fantasy. ai is rapidly becoming our reality and just like the movies we have to confront what ai means for our future. >> ai might be really, really good thing for us, and it might be a really, really not good thing for us. >> reporter: that's tim urban from "wait but why". his explanation has already been read by 4 million people, but before we get to that whole really good, really bad thing, what is artificial intelligence? >> a lot of the misconception is ai is a robot. that's the container for the ai. ai is the software inside the container. ai is in particular software that can make
olivia sterns has the story. >> reporter: it is a typical weekend drive for david kiter.it this twice and the car takes over. >> reporter: he's not doing the driving, the computer in his tesla is. >> once you use it, you'll never want to go back. >> reporter: believe it or not, we're all getting used to it. it is artificial intelligence, which is steering this car. >> open the pod bay doors. >> i'm sorry, dave. i'm afraid i can't do that. >> reporter:...
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olivia sterns, nbc news, new york. >>> we're back in a moment with the army captain achieving somethingo woman in history has before. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. raise your expectations. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. &. held back
olivia sterns, nbc news, new york. >>> we're back in a moment with the army captain achieving somethingo woman in history has before. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight...
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olivia sterns, nbc news, georgia. >> things do add up, don't they?>>> we're back in a moment with how fast food workers were tricked into vandalizing their own restaurant. i'm val, the orange money retirement squirrel from voya. val from voya? yeah, val from voya. quick question, what are voya retirement squirrels doing in my house? we're putting away acorns. you know, to show the importance of saving for the future. so you're sort of like a spokes person? no, i'm more like a metaphor. okay, a spokes-metaphor. no, i'm... you're a spokes-metaphor. yeah. ok. i was in the military for 18 years.m brian. but i smoked. and i got heart disease. my tip is, it's hard to serve your country when you're too weak to put on your uniform. (announcer)you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now. you both have a perfect driperfect.ord. no tickets. no accidents. that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. yeah. now you would think your insurance company would cut you some slack, right? no. your insurance rates go
olivia sterns, nbc news, georgia. >> things do add up, don't they?>>> we're back in a moment with how fast food workers were tricked into vandalizing their own restaurant. i'm val, the orange money retirement squirrel from voya. val from voya? yeah, val from voya. quick question, what are voya retirement squirrels doing in my house? we're putting away acorns. you know, to show the importance of saving for the future. so you're sort of like a spokes person? no, i'm more like a...
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olivia sterns looks into it. >> ai can be -- might be really, really good thing for us, and it might be a really, really not good thing for us. >> and with the boston marathon of the bombing three years ago is gathering there again and they're not stopping at 26 miles. dylan dreyer has their story a bit later. >>> let's begin with the race for president. after nearly two weeks of campaigning and some painful displays of new york values seemed pandering, the primary two days away. there was a testy brooklyn debate tuesday night and bernie sanders hustled off to the vatican for a brief meeting with pope francis. hillary clinton spent the weekend raising cash with the clooneys in california. including at an event friday that cost $353,000 per couple. sanders supporters threw dollar bills at clinton's motorcade as she drove into the event. george clooney telling chuck todd, shouldn't be like this. >> it is an obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign, they talk about it, is absolutely right. it is ridiculous we should have this kind of money in politics. kristen welker, thank you for
olivia sterns looks into it. >> ai can be -- might be really, really good thing for us, and it might be a really, really not good thing for us. >> and with the boston marathon of the bombing three years ago is gathering there again and they're not stopping at 26 miles. dylan dreyer has their story a bit later. >>> let's begin with the race for president. after nearly two weeks of campaigning and some painful displays of new york values seemed pandering, the primary two days...
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nbc's olivia sterns takes us through big campaign contributions next.jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ her long day as anne. hair stylist starts with shoulder pain when... hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve. try your favorite ranch with a fresh taste so crisp, you'll be surprised it doesn't crunch. hidden valley cucumber ranch. just one of our delicious ranch flavors. ♪ with intuitive all-wheel drive. take on the unexpected. election cycle has been wall street with both bernie sanders and donald trump repeatedly blasting big monies influence on it. that hasn't stopped wall street from dishing out tons of money to campaigns. olivia sterns is looking into the numbers for us. good to see you. what did you find? >> good morning, jose. until now all of that money has bought wall street as we call it a whole lot of political influence. that seems to be changing. even though the amount has tripled. here with me now is a politi
nbc's olivia sterns takes us through big campaign contributions next.jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ her long day as anne. hair stylist starts with shoulder pain when... hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve. try your favorite ranch with a fresh taste so crisp, you'll be surprised it doesn't crunch. hidden valley cucumber ranch. just...
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you can get something you want. >> olivia sterns, thank you. we learned a lot. >>> up next, we are bearing our souls with the new game called if and why. what will our producers come up with this time you ask? that's after these messages. folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. burning, shooting pain don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. st wildlife rescue workers open up a lot of dawn. tough on grease...yet gentle. dawn helps open... something even bigger. go to facebook.com, dawn saves wildlife. thanks for doing this, dad. so i thought it might be time to talk about a financial strategy. you mean pay him back? so let's start talking about your long term goals. knowing your future is about more than just you. it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. i'm like a boxer in a ring.
you can get something you want. >> olivia sterns, thank you. we learned a lot. >>> up next, we are bearing our souls with the new game called if and why. what will our producers come up with this time you ask? that's after these messages. folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with...
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olivia stern shares a digital way to save ne for a car he didn't even own. >> $24. >> for a car you sold else is enjoying. >> reporter: that $24 was for onstar roadside assistance. just one of many subscription services that ed and his wife christy steigned up for and fort about. >> how many subscriptions did you have? >> probably 15, 20. this is unopened. >> the worst? shampoo ed bought not realizing he would be locked in. >> we bought it once, not realizing it could keep coming. >> busy traveling for work, the husband and wife team lost track of their bills, that's until ed signed up for something new. truebill a subscription monitoring service that saved them $3600 a year. >> what else? >> reporter: the co-founder says the average user saves $512. >> people are spending more and more of their money on subscriptions rather than one-time purchases. >> reporter: here's how it works. you give truebill access to your bank card or bank statement. truebill says it never shares data with third parties and has read only access so nothing can be changed on your account. for now the service is f
olivia stern shares a digital way to save ne for a car he didn't even own. >> $24. >> for a car you sold else is enjoying. >> reporter: that $24 was for onstar roadside assistance. just one of many subscription services that ed and his wife christy steigned up for and fort about. >> how many subscriptions did you have? >> probably 15, 20. this is unopened. >> the worst? shampoo ed bought not realizing he would be locked in. >> we bought it once, not...
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olivia sterns, thank you. watch her full report on "nbc nightly news" at 6:30 only on nbc 10.n the meantime, in a matter of days, medical marijuana will be legal in pennsylvania. >> so what happens next? a closer look at what this means for patients, next at 5:00. >>> and all new at 6:00, hollywood hits the boardwalk of the jersey shore. we'll tell you where you can catch a glimpse, coming up. >>> right now at 5:00, nbc 10 continues to follow a large group of protesters who are marching through the streets of center city. this is right in the heart of center city. they are protesting over a number of issues, including the minimum wage. some of them are with the black lives matter movement. others are protesting the possibility of a new stadium on the campus of temple university. sky force 10 is over the area near broad and arch streets. by all accounts, this appears to be a peaceful protest. however, as you can see on the edge of this crowd, there are police on standby. what we do know is that traffic is being affected. so, if you're trying to get on the expressway, vine expre
olivia sterns, thank you. watch her full report on "nbc nightly news" at 6:30 only on nbc 10.n the meantime, in a matter of days, medical marijuana will be legal in pennsylvania. >> so what happens next? a closer look at what this means for patients, next at 5:00. >>> and all new at 6:00, hollywood hits the boardwalk of the jersey shore. we'll tell you where you can catch a glimpse, coming up. >>> right now at 5:00, nbc 10 continues to follow a large group of...
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olivia sterns shares both sides of the story ahead on the "today" show. there are some countries including parts of scandinavia where women get a whole year paid maternity leave and the argument is that they create a better workforce and happier workforce an ultimately create better products because of the happiness at the workplace. >> interesting that when you don't have that option, there are other ways that people are getting creative to try to make up the loss of working. >>> let's check your forecast now. 6:19 about on this tuesday morning. chuck bell, we like your smile today because we know -- and then you hold up the umbrella. >> he was going on such a reminder for everyone, this is what you need first thing this morning. you won't need it all day. by later this afternoon, we'll turn morning raindrops in to afternoon rays of sunshine. but we won't get the big warm-up. 73 yesterday afternoon, and today the warmest part of the day is right now. temperatures in the low to mid-60s already. if you're head willed out for a walk or jog, it will be a wet
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. >> olivia sterns, thanks. >>> still to come, what voters here in new york's contested 19th congressionaluesday's primary. when we return live from upstate new york. if you're going to make a statement... make sure it's an intelligent one. ♪ the all-new audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. ♪ technology moves faster than ever. the all-new audi a4, with apple carplay integratio >>> welcome back to fly creek, new york. out here with the geese and ducks by the pond. this is the water source that feeds the cider mill we've been broadcasting all day. kate snow. five days to go until the new york state primary. we thought we'd gather a few random sample of voters here at fly creek. nice to see you all. thanks for doing this. jason, you're a registered democrat. >> correct. >> but who are you going to vote for in the primary? >> primary's i'm voting for bernie. >> okay. about you you told us that you really feel a different way? >> correct. i am going -- planning on voting for trump if he does win the republican nomination. >> right now a democrat, bernie sanders, and then switch over to trum
. >> olivia sterns, thanks. >>> still to come, what voters here in new york's contested 19th congressionaluesday's primary. when we return live from upstate new york. if you're going to make a statement... make sure it's an intelligent one. ♪ the all-new audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. ♪ technology moves faster than ever. the all-new audi a4, with apple carplay integratio >>> welcome back to fly creek, new york. out here with the geese and ducks by the pond....
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we'll talk to nbc's olivia stern on wall street. we'll start in new york city talking to bankers.hat are you hearing down there? >> reporter: i think they're sick of being bashed. you heard it from jamie diamond, the ceo of j.p. morgan earlier this week. it was one thing after the financial crisis and then occupy wall street but then just sick and tired of the stuff we're hearing from the democratic campaign. the truth is wall street does skew conservative. most identify as republicans. you see that in the donation numbers. two-thirds of funds went to republicans. one-third went to democrats. but i went on to the floor of the new york stock exchange behind me earlier and i spoke to one trader who said actually, when it comes down to it, he thinks traders are going to vote with their wallets. but it may surprise you to hear who he thinks that means they'll choose. have a listen. >> i will tell you what somebody told me. the richest man i've ever known before i used to work, if you want to live republican, live democratic. while hillary's husband was president of the united states,
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olivia sterns has more on the backlash. good morning. >> good morning, savannah. they made the changes based on what their most loyal customers were asking for. ever since the announcement, the complaints keep pouring in. the backlash making its way to wall street. it seems investors and customers are left with a bad taste in their mouths. >> reporter: a morning jolt for starbucks, as its new rewards program has some of its most loyal customers steaming. >> sounds like a little bit of a -- or a lot a bit of a rip off. >> it's not much of a reward. >> reporter: before, you got one star per visit, with 12 stars earning a free reward. now, they'll accumulate two stars for every dollar spent, needing 125 stars to get a freebie. a reward costing $63. >> who is the rewards program good for and who is it bad for? >> the most loyal, heavy spending, it's good. they spend more already. now, they'll get more for the spending. it's not so great for that customer that comes in, even on a daily basis, but buys the lowest-priced coffee. >> reporter: when the coffee giant announc
olivia sterns has more on the backlash. good morning. >> good morning, savannah. they made the changes based on what their most loyal customers were asking for. ever since the announcement, the complaints keep pouring in. the backlash making its way to wall street. it seems investors and customers are left with a bad taste in their mouths. >> reporter: a morning jolt for starbucks, as its new rewards program has some of its most loyal customers steaming. >> sounds like a...
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maybe they don't agree with the regulations. >> uncertainty. >> olivia sterns, thank you very much. >t on "morning joe." mary buys a little lamb. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of the at&t network, a network that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be open & secure. because no one knows & like at&t. (boy) (mom) because we'resettle settlers and that's what we do. (girl) but with directv and at&t, you can get your tv and wireless service from one provider. (dad) are not we your providers? do we not provide you with this succulent jackrabbit pie? this delicious graywater soup? and a single lick of the family lolli every harvest moon? (vo) don't be a settler, get a $100 reward card when you switch to directv. at safelite,oh nonow how busy your life can be. this mom didn't have time to worry about a cracked windshield. so she scheduled at safelite.com and wit
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nbc's olivia sterns is here to explain that. olivia, good morning. >> good morning.you actually use biometric technology every time to unlock your iphone with your fingerprint. that's biometric technology at work. perhaps it was only a matter of time before other companies started to embrace biometrics. instead of your fingerprint, get ready to use your face. the selfie is everywhere, from the kardashians, to the academy awards, even the first family. and now what used to be a way to show your mom your new haircut could change the way we shop. >> this technology will continue to work its way into all of our digital experiences and it will be part of the future of shopping. >> reporter: 205 million americans currently shop online. in a recent survey 77% said they're worried about having their information stolen. enter the selfie. you line your face up? >> yes. >> reporter: you have to blink? >> yes. >> reporter: here's how it works. instead of typing in a password when you check out online, you're prompted to click on a link that opens an app on your phone. you hold y
nbc's olivia sterns is here to explain that. olivia, good morning. >> good morning.you actually use biometric technology every time to unlock your iphone with your fingerprint. that's biometric technology at work. perhaps it was only a matter of time before other companies started to embrace biometrics. instead of your fingerprint, get ready to use your face. the selfie is everywhere, from the kardashians, to the academy awards, even the first family. and now what used to be a way to show...
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nbc's olivia sterns has this story. good morning. >> morning. next time you're on facebook and one of the ads pops up for a cute dress or maybe a top, well, you might not want to be so quick to click on it after all. >> reporter: it's a familiar the latest fashions, the prices, dirt cheap. what if what you buy looks nothing like that pretty picture after all? >> there are tons of these e-retailers on facebook. they're using beautiful imagery, telling youyou can that you can get clothes for 90% off and it's gorgeous. it doesn't look like the pictures. >> reporter: a new analysis by buzzfeed news shows thousands of complaints from customers across the country. piled up on trust pilot and the better business bureau, all lodged by shoppers who say what showed up on their doorstep wasn't what they saw online. this woman thought she was buying this coat after seeing an ad on facebook, but got this one instead. >> when i saw the ad for the coat, i was excited because i thought it would be a great option for a winter coat. when i got it, it's not even c
nbc's olivia sterns has this story. good morning. >> morning. next time you're on facebook and one of the ads pops up for a cute dress or maybe a top, well, you might not want to be so quick to click on it after all. >> reporter: it's a familiar the latest fashions, the prices, dirt cheap. what if what you buy looks nothing like that pretty picture after all? >> there are tons of these e-retailers on facebook. they're using beautiful imagery, telling youyou can that you can...
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nbc's olivia sterns is here to tell us about this. >> as you know, the u.s.ave no guarantee we can actually afford to take time off to spend with our newborn babies. now some expecting moms are taking matters into their own hands with a decidedly modern solution. >> reporter: when nicole richie found out she was pregnant with her first child, she was thrilled. >> oh, that's cute. >> reporter: the 24-year-old from virginia thought she and her husband had done everything right. they made a budget, worked out the cost and got some help from friends and family. >> these were given to us by our co-worker. >> reporter: the closer she gets to her due date, the more she worries about money. >> it's, yo you knu know, three away. it's getting close to the finish line. there are still some things that i worry about financially. >> reporter: as a hair stylist as a small salon, richie doesn't get any paid maternity leave. when she heard about women who raise money for their leave on crowdfunding sites, she decided to start a gofundme. >> your goal is $1,200. >> mm-hmm. >>
nbc's olivia sterns is here to tell us about this. >> as you know, the u.s.ave no guarantee we can actually afford to take time off to spend with our newborn babies. now some expecting moms are taking matters into their own hands with a decidedly modern solution. >> reporter: when nicole richie found out she was pregnant with her first child, she was thrilled. >> oh, that's cute. >> reporter: the 24-year-old from virginia thought she and her husband had done everything...