ehud olmert in tel aviv, welcome to hardtalk. hi. mr olmert, does it seem to you that this fragile, complex, ceasefire deal in gaza is actually an end to the war orjust a pause? i wish it were, but i'm not certain. i think the agreement is obviously a partial agreement and limited in time, and in the number of hostages that are going to be released. so the question is, er, what is the next step? we in israel would have liked it to have been, in the first place, a comprehensive deal with the end of the war and the return of all the hostages. prime minister netanyahu waited almost eight months, since may, until he finally agreed, perhaps as a result of the pressure of the new president of america, donald trump. but at this point, this is a partial agreement. it's interesting that while national security minister ben—gvir, one of the most extreme right members of the cabinet, chose to resign, calling the deal a surrender, one of the other far—right members of cabinet, mr smotrich, the finance minister, chose to stay in the government, a

ehud olmert in tel aviv, welcome to hardtalk. hi.

ehud olmert looks down. israel says, we are headed to a kind of south african struggle. and then i come over here and, i see some kids up at columbia say that. and folks, well, they should be suspended. what world do we living in and what the road forward what's the solution there is a very, very easy answer to that. i was on tv, on cbs. and honestly, in every other interview i've been this week and every other i have and i should not be there. i shouldn't be on the stage right now. talking to talking to you there should a palestinian sitting here, you see to. everything i just outline instructions. i just thought that what that requires is you to not and this is why i took myself to test so strongly with requires is for you not to see a people as as human beings. and in order to not them as human beings, you can't let speak. you can't let them narrate. you can't as the great edward say said, you can't let them articulate for themselves. i got so many notes, man, from some of my, you know, palestinian and sisters, they said, and really my arab and sisters and john, i sai

gray part inside west bank is what sharon plan was was and that's the one that the prime minister olmert has adopted. and the white part is a part that israel will control you see the entire jordan river valley which is over to the right is to be controlled by and the wall is to go around those gray parts that are left the heart of the west bank and were completely in and or encapsulate or imprison they are the palestinians and those dots are the ones that olmert and sharon intend to retain inside the territory along with the dots that they still have now in their own territory. so you can see the palestinians have practically left and i couldn't show it on this map. it is too complicated between adjacent settlements, the roads built to connect one side to another and then to connect the settlements to druze land and the palestinians in most places are not permitted to use those roads or even to cross many of the roads. in addition to the wall being built, which i haven't yet describe adequately, but so that's what the palestinians partners or apartheid, if you want to use that word, apa