him and olmstead was probably -- what we call the first landscape architect. mr. olmstead did not care for that term, landscape architect, but what he was looking for was the big picture. he had come from central park in new york cy. he had a vision that spanned huge acreage, and also the ability to see what he called the picturesque -- what that pretty little vignette would look like. he started landscape architecture in the united states. frederick law olmstead had worked with george vanderbilt in the past, had worked with the vanderbilt family a number of times in the past. he was the preeminent person to have an estate like this laid out. he was at the end of his career. he did not have anything left to prove. he could bring all of his experiences. he could have this really beautiful picture that included forrester's -- forest, which is something that people do not see consciously. beautiful rolling hills. it did not look like that when olmstead began. he saw that was an important part of it. it was also important that the country learn you could have a scient

they see the backdrops, but it did not look like that when olmstead began. he saw that that was an important part of it. it was also very important that the country learn that you can have a scientifically-managed forest and they had been doing it for centuries in europe, but it was not the practice here, so he helped to bring together with george vanderbilt. so, as olmstead and vanderbilt were working out the bigger estate, and they both understood that scientifically-managed forests were going to be a really big part of the estate, they had to find somebody who could make this happen. and the first person they brought in as the first manager, the first forester was gifford pincho, and we remember him from the national forest service. he started his career here at biltmore. , what is iteye going to look like in 20, 50 years? that is a refrain we still use at the estate the day. as a director of horticulture here, i have one very important job, and that is to maintain the design intent that was historically for the estate. whether it is the approach road or