. >> how does it feel to be a part -- olping o'brien succeed prah succeed. she has been public about the roles she has taken on in making sure her networks of seeds. i have said i would never bet against her, but everybody knows she put her energy into this, so how does it feel to be part of that process to help her make this work? >> both of us agreed. both of us recognize this is better than both of us. this is the salary our grandmothers did not get paid for. they did of hard work in this world and did not get paid. we are going to have a woman of color build a network that changes the face of television. this i know for sure, because the other networks said this could not be done. healing on television could not be done. they said no one would watch. it was done. by a woman of color who has a grandmother watching over her. i have a grandmother watching over me. own will change the face of television. this i know for sure. tavis: there you have it, so if you will seewn., it. i expect they will make it all the way up there as long as the project is on. gla