people like utah's orrin hatch, maine's olympia snowe.ee's bob corker and indiana's dick lugar? should they be worried? david cornynen is the washington bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine. and sam stein covers politics for the "huffington post." david, first, and then sam. should they be worried? should orrin hatch be scared a little bit that he's not conservative enough, and certainly bob corker in tennessee and people like that. >> i think all republicans should be concerned. i think ronald reagan wouldn't be conservative enough for some of these tea party types. as we've seen in the past few months, if you have these small republican primaries, this group of very angry far-right tea partiers can have tremendous impact. we don't know if they're going to have a big impact on the general election, but we do know in the republican primary, they have a lot of weight to pull. so if i was, if i were orrin hatch or any of these others, i'd be running to the right and we already see that happening as "the wall street journal" reported. >>

olympia snowe, bob corker, orrin hatch isn't a moderate. anybody who's not extremely, extremely conserve pif. is no republican senator conservative enough for the tea party? >>> let me finish tonight by saying what no one has said, no one has had the guts to say about barack obama. >>> all of that's ahead. but first the latest polls around the country. for that, we check the "hardball" scoreboard. and a new poll from florida shows republican marco rubio sitting pretty. he's got a 15-point lead over charlie crist. the governor now, 42, 27. with kendrick meek down at 21. next, new hampshire, the senate race may be tightening up up there. kelly ayotte has a five-point lead. hodes is coming up. her lead was 14 in the same poll. just two weeks ago. >>> and in ohio, republican and the governor race, it's the republican leading the incumbent governor very close to the margin of error and in the new york governor's race, democrat cuomo maintaining his double-digit lead over republican carl paladino. cuomo is up 18 in the new, much-respected quinnip

in fact, years later, of things to the critical vote of olympia snowe and the leadership olympia-- thanks to the critical vote of olympia snowe and the leadership of others, something like 90% of the classrooms and 95% of the classrooms to connect not just to the library of congress, but to all other data sources in the world. we're the only country in the world that has had the internet moved into the education sector at the same rate for poor kids as for rich kids. that came from al gore's vision. >> george w. bush -- his involvement with you. >> it was relatively modest. i think there was a similar perception that we appoint quality people who have the expertise and the foresight to run the agenda. i think people should understand, you are not a cabinet officer. you're not part of the administration. there are even ethical limits to the interactions between the white house and an independent agency. every president -- every white house has the same issue. i think the public assumes there is this never-ending dialogue going on back and forth. for the fact is there is almost rarely that

saw her wife and many of her friends and i received a letter from her mother and two sisters from olympia, washington. "the family like to see this om

. >>> in south carolina, teams competed in the bomb squad oh olympia. it included 100 yard dash, running up a downstairs, extracting an ied from a car and target shooting while wearing 730 pounds of equipment. the competitions a way for officers to test their abilities in the case of a real threat. >>> a california couple is hoping they measure up as the world's tallest pair. the man is 6'11", his wife, 6'5". the folks from guinness wer on hand to record their combined height, but no word on if they are, indeed, the world's largest couple. >>> andn pennsylvania, pumpkins are on display. a man and son grew these super sizedpumpkins, the largest weghing over 1,000 pounds. the others around 600. they're on display for visitors, but not yet available for pie making. >>> now foa look at your national and regional weather, here is nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. bill, good mornin >> how do they make those big pumpkins? are they genetically engineered? >> a little shot on the side. >> steroids. >> my pumpkin expertise is coming

i would disagree with earlier panels, whether the president should pressure olympia snowe.e problem is moderate to mainstream republican with whom we used to be able to cooperate have been so terrified by the fate of a robert bennett or liz murkowski that the mainstream conservative wing of the republican party is in fear so we haven't been able to work with them. my basic point, yeah, you should be dissatisfied. what's the best way to push for more. not to sit home and let the people who blocked us get even more power to block us of the best way is to vote and complain at the same time to put people in there that agree with you and put pressure on them. as far as the financial reform bill is concerned, there was a lot of criticism why it was being done. i think right now frankly with elizabeth warren in charge of the most powerful set of consumer protections we've ever seen, warren buffett announcing he's probably going to get out of the derivative business because we've taken profit out of it with all the things done, i think on balance people as they have seen this now u

saw her wife and many of her friends and i received a letter from her mother and two sisters from olympia, washington. "the family like to see this become a reality. even in the last month of her life, she expressed her desire to be working for the safety of the merchants, the homeless and indigent, and even for the dogs and cats. we have heard testimony from many people have said that she made a difference in their lives. she found jobs, paid for shelter and food and even helped people to straighten out their lives. she saw a need for all of the branches for police work to be actively involved in the city. she had a desire to work comfortably. her work lives on in the castro to be. the plaza is a fitting and well- deserved tribute and a moral to want to cared so much about people." this was signed by her mother and sisters. thank you. >> any additional discussion? supervisor campos. >> if i may, mr. president, without belaboring the point, i would like to think supervisor dufty for introducing this item. i had the pleasure of working with jane morning during my tenure at the police commi

. >> reporter: we tracked down carol came fert in olympia, washington. she agreed to grant her first and only tell vision interview. >> i didn't wake up one morning and say, gee, i'll frame my husband today. i did not, and i will say this again, i did not manufacture nor did i ever tamper with evidence. ever. and i passed four polggraphs and i'll be happy to take another. but i did not tamper with any evidence. >> reporter: she says she remembers her husband coming home the night of the murders with his clothing covered in blood. and that he later confessed to her as their marriage was disintegrating. to some it might sound a little farfetched. here is a guy with no history of violence, who allegedly kills two people he doesn't know in the desert and then confesses to you in a middle of a divorce. doesn't that sound -- >> it sounds ridiculous. but that's in fact what happened. >> reporter: the notion that your son, who i would presume, knows you, would say that you're capable of acting in such a diabolical fashion, that's -- it's a damning statement. >>

a wet ride out west, on i-5, from seattle to tacoma and olympia. >> if you are flying today, you canxpect some airport delays along the east coast. boston, new york, philly, washington, charlotte and miami. >>> for 1 of the 33 miners, today is not just his first day of freedom. it is also the day on which his son will be born. >> richard villaroel was the 28th miner to be rescued and the 1st to give an interview about his ordeal. here's abc's john quinones. >> reporter: 27-year-old richard villaroel came out of the shaft, miner 28. when the mine collapsed, his wife was pregnant. and this is the message he sent her when he was down below. to my senora, tell her that i love her a lot and that i'm going to get out soon. and this is what he said moments ago, from the hospital. i never used to pray, he says. here, i learned to pray. i got closer to god. now, that the worst is over, it's time for the men who were so strong for so many weeks, to admit they were frightened. we didn't want to wait anymore, he says. we were deteriorating. we were skinny. i lost 12 kilos. and i was scared of no

the knicks played italian team olympia milan know in milan yesterday. they travel to paris to play the knicks on wednesday. barcelona in spain on thursday. >> abc news continues to work on all angles of the story. we will have more live coverage later on "gma." >>> for the third time in three days, tankers carrying supplies to nato and u.s. troops have been attacked in pakistan. the taliban claimed responsibility for at least one of the attacks last week and had promised to launch even more. it's been especially tns in the region, ever since a nato helicopter attack killed three pakistani troops. >>> former white house chief of staff rahm emanuel hits the campaign trail today in chicago. emanuel made his bid for mayor official over the weekend with the announcement on his website. despite hi high washington credentials, emanuel is no shoo-in for mayor. >>> in washingtons are the priests told the lawyers and judges they are charged with rights that come from god, not government. the supreme court begins its new term today with three women on the bench fo

it's finally moving out of seat toll olympia to portland. back towards spokane, rain for you this morning too. that's kind of a look at your wet weather picture today. in l.a., i think tomorrow is your better chance of get some of that wet weather. that's a look atw. and mostly cloudy. lynn, someone told me there's something happening on sunday, like an important forecast for the kids. i'll try to figure out what that is. >> and get back to us. >> get back to you. >> we have a little time. thanks. >>> wall street waits, microsoft surprises and blame it all on mcdonald's. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. plus, this halloween weekend at the box office there's battle building between two horror franchises with bad blood in the past. >>> the magic spoil john wall's debut and the giants do it again. you're watching "early today." >>> good morning and welcome back to "early today." i'm lynn berry. here are some of your top headlines this morning. north korean troops opened fire on a south korean guard post in a heavily arm

olympia snowe is going to have trouble in maine. i don't know.e are going to be thinking about that. partisan becoming more narrow. you could have a populous in the motive of a ross perot. there are a lot of different ways and things could come to the front. it merits more attention this year and in the cent past. >> one thing we do know regardless of what party you're affiliated with is that money is flying into this town and our political process on an unprecedented level. a friend once said to me, a run away train and it's heading towards the wall, get out of the way. is this the train, jimmy? >> i got that from dick durbin from iillinois, so yeah, it's dwood advice. the outside money does bother me. the dnc just reported 16 million last month. that's a huge number considering democrats a hated. they raised $16 million. it's still going to be a drop in the bucket for the outside group. what concerns me the most was reported today and that is that foreign nationals, foreign corporations, have somehow figured out a way to break federal law and g

senators that will be a target in either a primary or general election in 201, cork from tennessee, olympia snowe from maine, orrin hatch from utah and the senator from utah. what's wrong with the republican? >> what you're seeing is a commitment from the tea party activists across the country an an understand thank one election doesn't solve this problem, that we're going to need a full commitment from all legislators to fix the problems like overspending, to fix the problems like government-run health care, and i think what we're looking at, in those races and in others, is that commitments to both for kissical responsibility, already you're seeing olympia snow change her position in support of extending the tax cuts for everybody. so we're going to look at their behavior in office over the next few years, but if they're not with the program, if they're not willing to make those tough choices, i think they will have -- >> bill: , well, senator snowe says the party is right, we've lost our way on fiscal issues. she agrees with you on that. senator hatch said these people are angry, justifi

when i wrote the budget in olympia, i did not compromise my principles.lance the bt without raising taxes and make sure we didn't throw widows and orphans under the bus doing it. i never care if i got reelected. i was happy before i got into politics. we got too many big issues to be worrying about reelections. >> greta: if you get elected and when you leave the united states senate if you -- what would be the thing that would make you the most proud that people would remember you by? >> that i did what i said i was gonna do. >> greta: that might be a stunner. that's a show stopper. that's not a bad thing. it is a show stopper, because i think the american people hear different things when people are running and when they leave office. >> i put it out in english for everyone to decide. if you like the way things are going, high unemployment and the like then vote for senator murray. she guaranteed to give you six more years. you want to get entrepreneurs back to work, come with me. we are going in a very different direction which is why we are finding gre

you will get one or two republicans, olympia and others from two different states. but that is it. the others, half of them on the democratic side will go in another direction from what the leadership advocates. so there is agreement among them. >>> if they succeed, taking out harry reid what ask that mean politically? >> i think whether they lose, they have won primaries. they have go up against the establishment on the republican side and i don't think they have lost one primary side that they have decided to engage in. >> you know one thing that is confusing for the tea party movement, there is the fiscal conservatives and the social, but for sure they're clear about the fiscal stance. but the social part is not -- >> because that is not what is motivating them. it is the fiscal conservative part that is motivating them. it is more narrow. it is a part of their strength that they're not split up on the socials. >> but i think a lot of republicans don't know whether or not to identify with them because of that. >> truly it is the unknown of that. and it is interesting, because on

he must think middle class families will forget what he did to them in olympia.t he voted to cut unemployment for laid-off workers. dino rossi, he's back and you still can't trust him to be for you. >> what can $2,000 get you? in kentucky -- >> the answer to medicare would be a $2,000 deductible. >> a $2,000 medicare deductible. grandpa may get around but he doesn't get kentucky. >> my partner in the political unit mark murray and this guy over here from -- >> partner in crime. >> partner in crime. >> chris. >> he's got a ton of titles. >> i'm trying to make the title as long as possible. title instead of money. >> it's all about this battle for the senate. mark, first of all, one of the things -- obviously, there's a lot of attention put to delaware and alaska and connecticut. what are the five closest senate races that nobody is watching? >> the tossups are in illinois and pennsylvania and wisconsin, west virginia. you probably add nevada in there as well. so much attention has been placed on delaware and alaska, we know because of christine o'donnell, the pali

when i was writing the budget in olympia when we had the biggest deficit in state history, i made sure that the nea grant was available. they were just trying to funnel into different areas and i said to know. i was willing to lay down railroad tracks to make sure it was available for kids like me. for that, i received the stephen altman mountain award for doing exactly what i said i would do and protect that funding. as the father of four, our oldest is a sophomore in college. i know exactly how expensive this is. i know how it is to fill out the facts of form and then they tell you that you make too much. that is a problem. we need to make sure there are loans available. we need to make sure that, for kids who cannot afford, that need grants are available. education is really the key to their future. it certainly helped me. i am well aware that. >> what i did not hear in that answer is whether or not mr. rossi would agree with me that we should not be given the bank's the responsibility to do student loans to a process to all of them -- to a profit to all of them and make sure that t

against the sitting senators, sitting fellow republican senators and wants to purge the party like olympia snowe and maybe even bob corker for all i know who are too moderate. so that and i kn that there are a lot of people in the leadership who do not see jim demint too well so are you going to have a war within the republican conference? >> if senator demint -- he has said he would rather have a republican conference of 30 republicans who share his view the and 51 with 21 who don't. >> that is not enlarging the party. >> i understand. [laughter] >> keep going. you're doing great. >> that is his point of view. i like jim demint and i know and respect him. i don't share the point of view. sometimes what it takes to get elected to the senate as a republican in texas is diferent than what it taketo get elected as a statewide in maine or oregon, and you know, we have to be competitive around the country. at the same time i don't think the party should abandon its principles of being for overtaxes and stronger national security and traditional values ani think we can do both somewhere in betwe

olympia and tacoma. 77 in billings. 97 in phoenix. mostly 60s, fargo, twin cities. indianapolis. 59 in boston. 62 here in new york. 71 in atlanta. >> as halloween approaches pumpkins of course are everywhere now. so the indianapolis zoo is making sure they don't go to waste. >> the zoo hosted its "pumpkin smash" an annual halloween tradition. the elephants were allowed to have their way with the pumpkins. they were having their way with them. some of them enjoyed rolling them around like a ball first. in the end the main focus was simply right there, eating them. >> disturb ford a sed for a sec. that's good. more after this. we'll be right back. you go next if you had a hoveround power chair? the statue of liberty? the grand canyon? it's all possible ith a hoveround., tom: hi i'm tom kruse, inventor rand founder of hoveround., when we say you're free to see the world, we mean it. call today and get a free overound information kit, that includes a video and full color brochure. dennis celorie: "it's by far the best chair i've ever owned." terri: "last year, 9 out of

if you can't get olympia snowe on your side, you're not going to do a good job of getting independentt to vote more than men, although we've seen in other polls that men, specifically white men, are very energized to vote this time. if a lot of women show up, this will not be good for the democrats, will it? >> i don't necessarily think that. i don't think that women are necessarily going to show up to the polls and vote republican or vote for a tea partier. there are still core issues, gay, pro-life, pro choice. all these things that affect women. women make $11,000 less a year than men. we want equal pay. we want somebody who is going to fight for that and that's not a republican. >> gretchen: but in an economy and recession where jobs are the number one issue, all the social issues may not matter as much. great to see you all on a very busy news day. coming up, the number one women's water polo team in the world. but nothing is giving these women more media buzz than a photo shoot they did with espn totally in the buff. and coming up, we'll go live to chile for the rescue of the 11

[laughter] >> i think olympia snowe you might want to get the chance. >> really, feel free, speak out. this is an open forum. were happy to make news. >> i hear from citizen voters in their state with the set of principles will intent to influence the outcome of the republican party primary. >> following on that question from the audience, what is the concern within our political culture/political hierarchy about the emergence of a third political party with tea party backing? >> i think people in the tea party will fight talk to think are parties to work. it takes to learn to organize. we have a two-party structure that is so ingrained, >> translator: hover you what went to you describe it for so long. they look at the example of ross perot in the unit itself -- i think they're a patient to a certain degree. they think they can have the most end up with a republican party which is ideologically closest to them. the most of all they just don't think a third party can work. >> and their wife. third parties are like bees. this thing once and die. and inject one of the main parties usual

the white house has tried to get the votes of centrists in maine, susan collins, olympia snowe and a lot of analysts says the white house has been unable to work with those centrists. if they don't pick up some of these moderate republicans, whether it's scott brown or susan collins, they won't get much done. then going into 2012 they won't have much of an agenda to talk about. >> good to see you, bob. >> julie: president obama taking aim at republicans suggesting their pledge to america blueprint for nation's future would really keep us trapped in the past. >> in fact in the pledge, the republican leadership is promising to scrap all the incentives for clean energy projects including those currently underway with all the joq and potential they hold. this doesn't make sense for our economy. it doesn't make sense for americans who are looking for jobs. it doesn't make sense for our future. to go backwards and scrap these plans means handing the competitive edge to china and other nations. >> julie: clean energy incentives the president was referring to was included in last year's stim

can we expect for this exhibit question mark from the early days, of the olympia.all, with stock. that was is less, iconic. >> woodstock-- >> it is a great show. and it is great to be part of it. >> and when you are taking these photos did you realize it was something so special? >> difficult question. >> and i realized that he was extraordinary. and when you saw him live he was so charismatic. and with he looked. it was sensational. and i knew that it was special what i had no idea that 43 years later. talking about him. >> and you can speak and see about him at the jimmy hendrix the life to the camera lens can you see me? it is september 25th-october 26th ration at s f a e .com >> and both the gentleman, thank you so much. congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and we're going to check in with henry. >> and then it we will be right back and if you ever have posted on the internet. you need to know that you could be legally liable. in fact, some pretty nasty cases who thought they were anonymous. they said things the got them into pretty big trouble. the

that is why when i was writing the budget in olympia as the chairman of the ways and means committeehen we had the biggest deficit in the state's history that the nea grant was available. there were try to funnel it into a few different areas. i said no. a way to make sure it was available for kids like me. for that i received an award from independent colleges for doing exactly what i said i would do about protecting that funding. as a father of four, or all this is a sophomore in college. i know exactly how expensive it is. i know what it is like to fill out the forms. it is a problem. we need to make sure that there are loans available. we need to make sure that for children they cannot afford it that need grants are available. education is going to be the key to their future. it certainly helped me. i am well aware of that. >> senator murray, 37 is to rebut. >> what i did not here is whether he agrees with me that we should not be giving the banks the responsibility for these loans so that they can profit. i consistently outvoted that that money goes directly to students so more

against the sitting senators, sitting fellow republican senators and wants to purge the party like olympia snowe and maybe even bob corker for all i know who are too moderate. so that and i know that there are a lot of people in the leadership who do not see jim demint too well so are you going to have a war within the republican conference? >> if senator demint -- he has said he would rather have a republican conference of 30 republicans who share his view the and 51 with 2 who don't. >> that is not enlarging the party. >> i understand. [laughter] >> keep going. you're doing great. >> that is his int of view. i like jim demt and i know and respect him. i don't share the point of view. sometimes what it takes to get elected to the senate as a republican in texas is different than what it takes to get elected a statewide in maine or oregon, and you know, we have to be competitive around the country. at the same time i don't think the party should abandon its principles of being for overtaxes and stronger national security and traditional values and i think we can do both somewhere in betwee

my framework in olympia was i was not going to raise taxes, but i would protect the most vulnerable peoplen society. received the defender of liberty award for being the architect of the most fiscally conservative budget ever written in our state. i received six different awards from the this of -- from the developmentally disabled community. also, i received a senior star award from aarp. you can be fiscally conservative and still have a social conscience, and create room in the budget for the things you're talking about. >> senator murray? >> i did not hear an answer to question about the nuclear reservation. my grandfather came here in 1916. my father was in the tri-city when the reservation was built. i know we have a moral and a legal obligation in this country to clean up the nuclear waste that is seeping in the ground water toward the columbia river today. millions of gallons. i have fought republican presidents and democratic presidents and numerous secretaries of energy to make sure that we meet that obligation. today, we do have tremendous challenges with our budget. the presiden