senator olympia snowe, next.t a single republican in congress voted in favor of the affordable care act, but one of them did when it was still a bill in committee, maine senator olympia snowe. here's what she said back in 2009. >> was this bill all that i would want? far from it. is it all that it can be? no. but when history calls, history calls. >> senator olympia snowe joining me now live. senator, welcome. history came acalling again today with this decision, didn't it? >> it sure did. i mean, it was an unprecedented decision in many ways on an issue that has wide-ranging ramifications for all americans. >> you and i were talking at commercial break and you just kept saying, wow, what a day. can you go a little farther than that? >> well, absolutely. i mean, obviously, the decision that was rendered by the court today has huge financial implications for individuals and families and businesses across this country, and most especially for individuals and families with the penalties or the taxes the supreme cour

you're seeing olympia snow say enough is enough. i'm leaving. we saw that with evan bayh.left congress. what is going on is bipartis bipartisanship is not a bad word. what is a bad word is punting. that's what you see from leaders on capitol hill. keep punting the ball down. we'll deal with it later. that's where we stand now. >> mark, will, norm, great to have a conversation with all three of you. thanks so much. coming up next, partisanship and my way or the highway ideology in congress left one of the strongest serving senators so frustrated she decided not to seek another term. as promised, olympia snow when we return. [ male announcer ] count the number of buttons in your car. now count the number of buttons on your tablet. isn't it time the automobile advanced? introducing cue in the all-new cadillac xts. the simplicity of a tablet has come to your car. ♪ the all-new cadillac xts has arrived. and it's bringing the future forward. if you made a list of countries from around the world... ...with the best math scores. ...the united states would be on that list. in 25th

i'm very disappointed when i see good people leaving like olympia snow is leaving now. >> well, what went into my mind when i left was newt gingrich. to be very honest. i had been in the congress for 22 years and been able to do all sorts of things, pass bills and so forth. then newt became speaker. and the women's caucus, which i co-chaired with olympia snow, if we were talking on the floor, newt would send guys over to tell her to get back over with her own kind and did away with women's caucus effectively and made it move off the hill and basically just gutted it. and all sorts of other things like that. and it was clear we weren't going to get anything done, that everything was going to be stopped. it felt like you were in a junior high food fight. so my whole thing was okay, we'll get democrats together and get out there every day and pound away. and i put these breakfast together with some friends and there will be six of us that meet every morning and we go at it and talk on newt and all sorts of things. and at the end of six months, we were still the same six because most of

moderate republican olympia snowe cited washington's hyper partisan atmosphere as the reason for herople are just stunned by debilitating partisanship, overall dysfunction even the most perilous times facing our country we couldn't get together. >> amy, president of the university of pennsylvania. she is the co-author of a new book "the spirit of compromise, why governing demands it and campaigning undermines it." welcome to the show you thank you for being here. >> pleasure. >> you heard on this show there's a lot of partisanship. it permeates what's going ochblt you have pointed out you think there are a few reasons of this. one, the cost of campaigns, the need to constantly raise more money. 24/7 echo chamber we're part of. what else? >> relationships have disappeared in congress. that's part of the campaigning mentality which is that politicians are campaigning all the time. it's as if every day were election day. that means they are not sitting down with each other and doing the work of governing. >> when you look at olympia snowe and over the last few years the people who left,

>> olympia snowe could have won by a landslide.ided to leave because she was fed up that she couldn't get anything done in washington. what has happened is very simple, actually, and very sad. which is our politicians are out of washington more times than they're in there, and they don't have the kinds of relationships, they don't know each other enough to extend the respect of sitting down. familiarity breeds attempt. we don't have the attempt to compromise. >> what we have heard at every stage in the conversation about the economy is the uncertainty, the unknown about how politicians will deal with it. and by the way, this is in europe as well is what's crippling businesses and people. we will elect the budget people who will come to some reasonable solution. >> yes, here's the hope. after this election nothing is going to happen before the election. everybody agrees on that. we're now in election mania. the sequester is going to go into effect. that will be a disaster by everybody's rights sochlt the voters are electing people w

because i am very disappointed when i see good people leaving, like olympia snowe is leaving now? >> what went into my mind when i left was newt gingrich, to be very honest. i had been in the congress for 22 years and had been able to do all sorts of things and pass bills and so forth, and newt became speaker, and if olympia and i were talking to the floor, newt

because i'm very disappointed when i see good people leaving like olympia snow is now. >> what went into my mind when i left was newt gingrich. to be very honest. i had been in the congress for 22 years and been able to do all sorts of things, pass bills and so forth. and then newt became speaker and the women's caucus, we had the largest bipartisan group on the floor. if we had the floor, newt would send guys over to tell us to get in with our own kind and blah, blah, blah, he basically gutted the women's caucus and all sorts of things like that. and it was clear we weren't going to getth

odds of them doing better than that ended when olympia snowe retired. i did not want to get too specific. there are a number of places where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. >> that is an understatement. [laughter] >> the best candidate is not likely to win. >> is prevented from running. >> virginia. or, let's say, florida. this is not likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. missouri, martin is dead on. >> if she wins the republican nomination -- >> let me make a comment about and this king -- about angus king. >> they have an ankle on everything perry >> i have a daughter in maine. his aunt was mayor of ... andrea. --of alexandria. there is an angle. i did not dismiss his automatically democrat. i think he wants to be independent. he is going to represent people who are frustrated. >> main elected an independent governor who is very unpopular. i am not sure an independent aligning himself with the republican party makes a lot of sense. >> i learned something interesting. angus king's first political involvemen

the moderates that might try to push this across the finish line, scott brown, susan collins, olympia snoweoke to an aid before i came to be program and they expect them to stay with the leadership on this one. the reason being there's been a big push by business-backed special interest groups and the u.s. chamber of commerce which said that this bill that would allow women to sue for punitive damages if they don't feel they're getting the same salary as men, as allow women to talk about salaries in the workplace and ask questions about what men make would really hamper small businesses. they expect to hold their caucus because of the strength of those groups. >> of course, the strength on the other side are the trial lawyers who would like to see this happen. >> indeed, right, andrea. >> but there's also -- >> but this is a great example of a vote that we'll hear about again in november. >> exactly. >> it fits in with what we've heard from democrats in the last few weeks, the war on women. this is another vote, they want to be able to say that republicans voted to not allow women to have e

members like susan collins of maine, lisa murkowski of alaska, olympia snowe of maine. is anybody potential crossover vote? last time it was party-line vote? >> guest: it could happen. i'm not hearing anyone say there is 100% there won't be one or two crossovers. there can't be that many, 40, 43ish republicans or something. more than that but you can't lose too many. so you know you may see one or two but you're not going to see 10. you may see it to be a pure party-line vote today. >> host: pete kasperowi kreechlt z, "the hill" staff writer tracking the vote. we'll see the senate weigh? on pay fairness act. thank you for talking with us this morning. >> guest: thank you. >> live coverage of the senate debate on that bill here on c-span2 when they return at 2:15 eastern. on the other side of the capitol the house will start legislative work at 2:00 working on a bill providing 32 bal billion to fund the energy department and federal water projects for fiscal year 2013. they will take up 10 bills under suspension of the rules dealing with land conveyance in a nu+++%@x$ of

that is really why i have co- sponsored bipartisan legislation with senator olympia snowe to strengthen title 9 and to get better results for every grow. it shines a bright light on how high schools are treating their female athletes, making sure that we have good data on the numbers of female and male students and athletes as well so that -- for budgets and expenditures. so, professor, i wanted to ask you today how have female college students benefited around the college resources from men and women? and what is a problem with not having that data at the high school level? >> you're referring to what is called the equity and -- equity in athletics disclosure act which happened around 1995. you can go on the web site and see what are the opportunities and what the budgets are pin they tell girls before to -- budgets are. they tell girls before they go to the school whether there will be valuing boys and girls sports experiences. it also lets them know whether or not it is fair for them to go into the athletic department and say i want to start a new sport or for a club team to go in an

you can't tell me anybody would be skittish about nominating somebody like condoleezza rice or olympia snowe using that as an excuse it begs the question -- are they using it as an excuse to expose sexism. it is offensive. >> well, let me get a little historical context here. certainly it is rather is exist but let's go back to jair agera ferrara. find that in historical terms when you take a look at what's gone on in the past, sarah palin created energy john mccain needed. everybody forgets in a in the his tore can a context. john mccain had a flat campaign. she provided the energy and excitement and then certainly the rest is history. but -- i don't -- i don't think that's fair to say that the republicans would say she poisoned the well any more than democrats would say thgeraldine ferrara poisoned it for them. >> this is jill in los angeles speaking to the union representing nurses, prison guards and sanitation workers. >> we owe you! you shouldn't be vilified! you provide the safe neighborhoods! you provide the good schools! you provide the school lunch program! you provide the daycare c

republicans criticized, it was interesting how the white house spent 2009 trying to win over the olympia snowes and get republican support. in some ways, of that proved utile. it'll be interesting to see when the dust has settled which strategy was action more successful. host: one of the appearances was on c-span. it is on our website at c- span.org. " q 7 a" every sunday. goes for aarren' campaign. it was the worst week in washington award. guest: it is planned to be a competitive contest. it was about her designating herself as a native american and whether or not she was a native american and whether she got harvard to employ her because of that minority status. it was something she did not want to talk about pe. this will be more decide about the margin of the boat. it is hard to say how scott brown is able to hold on when massachusetts would be voting for barack obama. in mitt romney wins, it be impossible to see how elizabeth warren would be able to win massachusetts. >> often editorials drive the conversation on a weekend. this may continue. this was inside the new york times. on friday

and that's really why i have co-sponsored the bipartisan legislation with senator olympia snowe to strengthen title ix and make sure that it continues to deliver the results for every young woman and a girl. the high school data transparency at what it does is shine a really bright light on how high schools are treating their female athletes to make sure we have good data on the number of female and male students as well as the budgets and expenditures. to give the information at that level and so professor hogshead-makar, i wanted to ask you today how have female college students benefited from the transparency that surrounds the funding and resources for the men and women's college, and what would have been the implication of not having that at the high school level? >> sure. you are referring to what is called the equity disclosure act that was passed i believe 1990 or 1991 right around there you can go onto the web site and look at whether the opportunities and budgets and all those kind of things. they do a number of things. number one is the tell girls before they go to the school with

. -- olympia snowe of maine. guest: i have not heard that there are a few crossovers. there cannot be that many. there are 43 republicans. more than that. there may be one or two. host: pete kasperowicz is tracking the vote. we will see the senate way ieign on the paycheck fairness act. thank you for joining us. we have judith lichtman and sabrina schaeffer. thank you for coming in. judy you support the law. women earn 70 cents for every dollar that a man earns. guest: if we hold constant all kinds of choices like education and occupation, it still remains a very significant wage gap. that wage gap sadly in this day and age in the beginning of the second decade of the 21st century is a direct result of sex discrimination and there is no getting around it. you cannot wish it away. the wage gap is a present-day manifestation of sex discrimination. it is sad that we're arguing about whether it is a political fight. it should be a bipartisan leadership effort by everybody to address the vestiges of a very significant wage discrimination against women. host: these are the n

republican senator olympia snowe, by all means a moderate senator, who is retiring over increasing partisanship in washington, wrote to me in april to urge quick senate action on many of the challenging issues facing us. it was a letter crying out for help but not help from us, not help from democrats; she was speaking to the republicans. she knew they were holding up virtually everything we were trying to do. and i'm sure that's one reason that this fine woman is leaving the senate. leader cantor's remarks provide a window into the true republican agenda. it seems when congressional republicans forget the world is watching, they say what they really mean. they're more interested in putting on a partisan sideshow than in solving the real problems facing this nation. but, mr. president, in truth this comes as no surprise. it's just more -- more of the same. republicans have launch add series of attacks on access to health care for women, even contraception, and filibustered legislation to ensure american women pay equal -- receive equal pay for equal work. in my desk here, mr. president -- i hav

so is olympia snowe the other senator from maine who is leaving.n collins said after the vote essentially she took that line of reasoning. there are other laws on the books that address this. lilly ledbetter act, the paycheck fairness act the original one. because this current one is building on the last one. so she kind of like embraced the line that you hear some other republican leaders saying. i'm not sure -- i just can't believe this would be something that they feel good about privately. >> bill: no. sometimes they have to fall on their sword. jenn benderey is our guest with "huffington post." we're talking paycheck fairness and other issues related to the war on women. "huffington post."com. you can follow her work and follow her on twitter at jbendery. so, let's go back to -- your calls are welcome during the conversation. it is an on-going issue. 1-866-55-press. let's go back to the violence against women act. here again, we talk about this on the show. it is an issue that is -- since 1994, it has always had bipartisan support. it has alwa

odds of them doing better than that ended when olympia snowe retired. i did not want to get too specific. there are a number of places where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. >> that is an understatement. [laughter] >> the best candidate is not likely to win. >> is prevented from running. >> virginia. or, let's say, florida. this is not likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. missouri, martin is dead on. >> if she wins the republican nomination -- >> let me make a comment about and this king -- about angus king. >> they have an ankle on everything perry >> i have a daughter in tmaine. his aunt was mayor of ... andrea. xandria.ezan there is an angle. i did not dismiss his automatically democrat. i think he wants to be independent. he is going to represent people who are frustrated. >> main elected an independent governor who is very unpopular. i am not sure an independent aligning himself with the republican party makes a lot of sense. >> i learned something interesting. angus king's first political involvement w

the days of potentially doing better than that are gone and he fectively ended when olympia snowe retiredartin has a good point, and i don't want to get too specific, because i don't want to get a bunch of nasty phone calls. but there are a number of places this year and two years ago where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. but that is an understatement. but they're not likely to win -- they're preventing from running in virginia. let's say florida, this isn't likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. >> her name is steelman. if she wins the republican nomination, clare's got a very interesting chance. >> we could go through this. he's from alexandria, u.v.a. law school. his aunt, for those of you from the washington region -- >> between these two guys, they've got an angle on everybody. >> i have a daughter in maine, and i want to talk about maine. >> his aunt is the mayor of alexandria and in the state senate with my wife. if you're angus king and susan collins could be chairman of the government committee, your colleague if the republicans take c

the days have been getting potentially doing better than that work on and effectively olympia snowe retired. martin has a good point and i don't want to get too specific because i don't want to get a bunch of nasty phone calls. there are a number of places this year and two years ago where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. i know history and that happened, or for the best candidate is not likely to win is prevented from landing virginia. or let's say florida. you know, this is not likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. missouri, i think martin is dead on. >> earning the steelman and she wins she's got a chance. >> week ago. lamy make a comment to the angus king. uva law school for those of you. >> they've got an angle and everybody. >> i love a daughter in maine. >> is and is past the taste or the mayor of andrea. but i would say if your angus king and susan collins could be chairman of the government committee come your college republican state control, there's an angle to that, too. i don't dismiss these automatically democrat and he desperately

senator scott brown of massachusetts, senator susan collins, senator olympia snowe.llion over ten years, they have to start somewhere. >> steve: if youfully a million dollars house, should you be eligible for food stamps? >> brian: why would you want to? >> steve: maybe you're out of work. >> brian: by the way, the vote was 58-41. one of the things they voted on is to give people $500 million to states that get more people to sign up. what is the objective of this program? >> steve: every democrat voted against it, except claire mccaskill of missouri who is in a really tough race for her political life out there. >> alisyn: let's get to your headlines. a developing story to tell but now because a gunman claiming to be a member of al-qaeda has taken four people hostage in france, including a bank manager and three others. so far no reports of any injuries. tensions are much higher than usual in the city since march. a gunman inspired by al-qaeda, he said, killed three jewish children, a are buy and three soldiers there back then. >>> get to objectryland hotel back in

party line vote, what was interesting is how the white house spent 2009 trying to win over the olympia snowsnd susan collins to get republican support for a lot of their initiatives and in some ways, that -- in some ways, that proved futile ended up delaying the amount of time on those reforms. i see two different strategies at play vs. scott walker and barack obama. it will be interesting to see when the dust has settled come 2013 which strategy was actually more successful. host: to your point from fairfax, virginia, one of the appearances of tom hartman was on c-span's "q&a" program. it's on our web site at cspan.org and it was an interview that we conducted, "q&a" airs every sunday at 8:00 eastern and pacific time. one other note for you from mark murray, franco was challenging elizabeth warren in a party line. elizabeth warren trounces her rival girding for a nasty campaign and your friend and colleague from "the washington post" giving elizabeth warren the worst week in washington award this week. guest: two things to point out here, it's going to be a competitive contest which means t

the days of them potentially doing better than that were gone and effectively ended went olympia snowe retired. but i think martin has a good point, and i don't want to get too specific because i don't want to get a bunch of nasty phone calls. but there are a number of places this year and two years ago where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. i mean, i know history and that happens in both parties. >> right. >> but where -- >> that is an understatement. [laughter] >> or where the best candidate is not likely to win -- >> is prevented from running. is prevented from running in the virginia. >> virginia or let's say, you know, florida. you know, this isn't likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. missouri, i think martin is dead on -- >> her name is steelman, and if she wins the republican nomination, claire's got a very interesting -- >> we could go, we could go through -- let me make a comment about angus king because he's from alexandria originally. uva law school. his aunt -- >> you know, between these two guys, they've got an angle on everybo

and if i lived in maine, i certainly think i would have voted for olympia snowe. i think one of the saddest turns of events in the last year politically has been that a senator as dedicated, as smart, as hard working and as long-serving as senator snowe feels that things are so broken in washington that she can no longer continue. that broke my heart. >> host: sandra in bedford, oregon, you're on booktv on c-span2 with anna quindlen. >> caller: yes, thank you. >> host: please, go ahead. >> caller: hello, anna. i feel like i know you already. i'm just a tad older, maybe a big tad like a tadpole growing into a fish. i have many questions for you. as i said earlier, i feel as though i know you already. your sister may be a younger sister, definitely younger, because i'm 78. and i've been retired since the age of 65. but i'm not really retiring. i was born in modesto, california, but i'm not very modest either. in any case, i am a great admirer of yours and of the likes of you and your writing, and all of my inspirations prior to being exposed to you was in my grandmo

a new in the senate have not signed it, and all of those in election selections, olympia snowe not runningrichard lugar just lost, susan collins of maine, thad cochran of mississippi, john barrasso who's part of the senate leadership team of wyoming, and john hone. let's show you a couple of the democrats who have signed, rob andrews of new jersey, ben chandler of kentucky and nebraska senator ben nelson. that's the current situation in the congress. grover norquist was talking about how many people running this year have signed, but our question to you is, would you take an anti-tax pledge if you were coming to town with all the discussion and debate about the economy, the budget deficit and the like. tell us why, yes or no. let's begin with a call from jacksonville, florida. this is stuart, an independent. you're on the air. >> caller: no, i would not sign -- i'm sorry, can you hear me? >> host: yes, sir, we can. >> caller: yeah. i would not sign the pledge because these politicians, the senate and the white house both seem, it seems apart that they're owned by the multi-national corpora

odds of them doing better than that ended when olympia snowe retired.et too specific. there are a number of places where republicans have not been able to get the optimal people to run. >> that is an understatement. [laughter] >> the best candidate is not likely to win. >> is prevented from running. >> virginia. or, let's say, florida. this is not likely to be an optimal situation for republicans. missouri, martin is dead on. >> if she wins the republican nomination -- >> let me make a comment about and this king -- about angus king. >> they have an ankle on everything perry >> i have a daughter in maine. his aunt was mayor of ... andrea. --of alexandria. there is an angle. i did not dismiss his automatically democrat. i think he wants to be independent. he is going to represent people who are frustrated. >> main elected an independent governor who is very unpopular. i am not sure an independent aligning himself with the republican party makes a lot of sense. >> i learned something interesting. angus king's first political involvement was as a driver. >

that's the story and i'm so pleased olympia snowe is my cosponsor, and if she is here and would like to make comments, i yield the floor. i reserve the balance of my time. the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. ms. stabenow: just for the information of the senate, senator demint's amendment was next. we have not seen him on the floor yet, so we move to this amendment. as soon as he arrives, we will return to the demint amendment. in the meantime, it's my understanding we can proceed to a voice vote. the presiding officer: who yields time? ms. stabenow: i would yield back all time. the presiding officer: without objection. all time is yielded back. the question is on the amendment. all those in favor say aye. all those against say nay. the ayes appear to have it. mr. roberts: madam president, i ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to be. the clerk will call the roll. vote: vote: the presiding officer: are there any senators wishing to vote or change their vote? hearing none, the ayes are 63, the nays are 36. the amend