and to your point about who can help fix that, the answer is omb. omb could use the budget function to make sure that these agencies comply with the law. they are required by law to start using these best management practices to start using, or several agencies that do a great job of preventing improper payments. i'll never forget when my uncle died a few years ago i got a letter, i was executor of his estate. i got a letter within a week of his death from the social security administration sank when you get his next check don't cash it or else you'll be violating federal law. clearly there are agencies that do a good job. the question is why art of those agencies sharing of best practices lacks that was part of an motivation behind the improper payments bill that we passed. i just think it's time to take a look or sicily and if given the opportunity i would certainly do that. >> thank you. i appreciate your service and your willingness to serve. was mentioned in the opening remarks the ranking member, and i notice that you chose to bring to the att

confirming an omb or we can work with will put america on a more responsible fiscal path. with their unprecedented attempts to delay the new cabinet commits senate democrats ensure the president has now been without an omb director longer than any other president in the past 40 years here that some of the budget act has been in place. according to senate records from president jimmy carter to president obama, the longest as has ever taken to approve a first budget to was one week. one week. we are now on week four with little or no movement. as majority leader mcconnell said last week, this is thening slowest time for a new cabinet to be up and running since president george washington. that was last week. it's even slower than not. we are still not done. it is vital we fill this position as soon as possible ply because the director of thee office of management and budget will help set the president's budget priorities and play an important role working with congress on setting the appropriate spending levels for the nation.nc this position is crucial to helping the federa

this record can't be ignored in light of the significant authority exercised by the director of the omb over the federal budget. almost every one of my colleagues voted for jim matus to be secretary of defense because they knew he was the right leader to help the department of defense confront growing threats to our national security. i share the same confidence but i also know he can't do it alone. voting in favor of congressman mulvaney's nomination would be asking secretary matus to spend less time fighting our enemies overseas and more time fighting inside the beltway budget battles with an omb director with a deep ideological commitment to cutting the resources available to his department. congressman mulvaney's record is equally troubling when it comes to foreign policy was apparently congressman mulvaney shared president obama's naÏve assumptions about russia's threat to eastern security when he voted to require the withdrawal of two army the great combat teams from europe in 2012. he compounded the error in 2013 when he voted to withdraw the second cavalry regiment from europe w

we're going to speak to the former omb director on what he expects to come out of trump's visit, nextlley" after this break. o] qckbookintrodes jeante and her new bile wedding business at first, getting paid was toug.. untishe got quickboo. now she nds invoices, se when they've beeewed d-ta-paid twe as ft for free vit quickbooks-d-com. >>> good morning once again, everybody. i'm sue herera. here is your "cnbc news update" at this hour. defense secretary jim mattis arriving at the munich security conference. vice president pence and homeland security secretary kelly also part of the u.s. delegation. mattis called on nato allies to carry their proportionate share of the defense burden. >> it is a fair demand that all who benefit from the best alliance in the world carry their proportionate share of the necessary costs to defend our freedoms, and we are committed to passing those freedoms intact to the next generation. >>> secretary of state rex tillerson meeting with the chinese foreign minister on the sidelines of the g-20 summit meeting in germany. he was told by his counter part that

of omb, he already found $100 billion. it was $97 billion, how much he saved going through the budget every step of the way. again you will need more than that. even if you get $100 billion which is significant, you will need more than that, that is where the growth target comes in. you have to have a growth target. how committed to the president is going over the heads of congress and going overheads of people even in his own administration who may not believe in tax cuts? >> david, i think he is committed. he will go to the mattresses on this to use a "godfather" term. he will fight to the death politically when it comes to this. he owes this to the american people. he must deliver it. you're exactly right by the way, the math doesn't work. we can't cut enough without touching entitlements. we can't cut enough to make the math work unless we start growing the way we should be growing. because of that, what he said on campaign trail, this president, i call him president promise keeper so far. he is keeping his promises. h

so we are looking forward to working with the incoming omb director, incoming and opm, and congress, as we go through the appropriation process. because you're right, ultimately what will happen if we are reducing and cutting staff and limiting our ability to do our audits is a waste, fraud, and abuse that we root out regularly would be impacted. >> is there any place where all of the waste, fraud, and abuse is put together in one report of what the igs have meant to the taxpayer? >> we do an annual report to the president and post it publicly. >> i'd like to see that annual report, and i'd like to really suggest to my colleagues that we might look at some type of a two-tiered approach in the hiring freeze, that if it's an agency that is making the government more efficient saving taxpayer dollars as igs do, then it should have an urgency of being filled and not left vacant. you mentioned presidential igs. what's the difference between a presidential appointed ig and another ig? i thought all igs were treated the same. they are not? >> they are the same under the statute in terms of

the new omb director just gave us the numbers. we haven't even process them. with a new president coming in, you get top lines and then you get the budget later on. this is exactly how the system is supposed to work. we are excited they are giving us these numbers this early in the process so we can move forward with processing the budget. >> bret: speaking of process, people sometimes glaze over when you start talking about the process but this is a blueprint. you will get the full budget probably in may and congress is going to turn around and see what the spending priorities are as well. >> this is not a piece of legislation. this is the presidents wish list and expression of his priorities but he's got something called the budget control act. sequestration, hard caps on defense and domestic. if you want -- and it prevents you from raiding one pot to give to another pair you can't pull from domestic and put it into defense unless you have 60 votes to raise the caps and democrats are going to say okay, you want more for defense spending? we want more for dom

. >> you have an omb director finally. he says you have to take an axe to entitlements. u.s. treasury says we're not touching it. who is right? >> who is right if the economy sails i'm right, i'm not touching social security. >> your omb is wrong? >> i'm not saying anybody is wrong. i think this is what's going to happen, brian, i think our country is going to sail. >> reporter: parse that. that is the president doing what he's done for months now, to continue to reiterate he is not going to be touching these entitlements. paul ryan is somebody who has worked for years to try to make the point that that overhaul needs to happen in order to make real dramatic changes to government spending, the house speaker saying this morning on nbc news with matt lauer that health care reform would be entitlement reform. it was interesting to hear him at his press conference earlier this morning ali talk about that given that did not seem to be one of his big pushes prior to president trump taking office. >> yes but you don't have to be an expert to look the at the budget and say if you are

, omb should base on the president of the very low risk profile of the shared guarantees, support for congress only the cost of any drawn down guarantee, only if and when these support payments are made. in essence the amounts scored by omb for federal budget purposes will be much, much less than the $150 billion figure and that will only occur as and if losses occur. the major reason guarantees score so little is that lenders and ultimately borrowers pay a guarantee fee to cover the anticipated cost of default. since they often run at zero subsidy, this should mean in the specific case of our national infrastructure bank, little or zero cost to american taxpayers. i would contrast this with the promises we heard throughout the many 16 campaign -- 2016 campaign. 250 billion dollars here or there. none of which, with all respect, is possible under our constraints in congress. well-meaning and well-intentioned women and men who govern this country have often seen, with all respects, eyes bigger than their stomachs in this category. it is inconceivable for those of us who do this that an

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omb is also going to be involved with him on the precurement process. that will be incorporated in our larger budget in may. >> so it's not just a blanket here. we're going to throw money at. >> no, sir. last one. >> does this account for spending for the president's wall either in the $30 million or if you are going to ask for this year or the $54 billion increase? is that including money for the wall? how to pay for the wall? >> it would be more than likely a little bit of both. we will -- we do expect to include some money in a future supplemental for 2017 for the wall. thank you >>> thank you director. let me get back to -- there in a second, april. this morning, the president dropped by the national governors association meeting where 49 govern prosecutors from both states and territories joined cabinet member and senior white house staff to discuss where we can work together to rebuild the country and restart the economy. while there, he issued a statement on the upcoming budget proposal. the budge will first and foremost keep americans safe, that

>> i think what the omb director made clear is how it works. the budget is dealing with the discretionary top line discretionary numbers, policy decisions are not part of the budget. that was what he was being asked and what he -- so i just want to be clear in terms of what he was -- again, i think -- >> the promise, in other words, what is the promise? >> as you point out, he had made the promise, stands by the promise -- >> what is the promise? current retirees, anybody paying in -- >> i'll follow up specifically on that. i think the president has made very clear that it's not his intent to do. he wants to focus on the discretionary side that entitlement reform is not -- with respect to those programs that he mentioned, he stands by his word. >> sean, the president -- >> fred lucas. >> i wanted to ask a couple issues. an executive order on religious freedom had previously been in the works. will that still come? if it does, will it extend beyond religious freedom? >> i'm sorry, what? >> i'm sorry. will it extend beyond the -- >> i think we've

. >> well, and i can tell you mick mulvaney, the new omb director, not only a personal friend but understands the numbers. president trump said something in the lead-up to this interview. if we don't get the obamacare repeal and replacement done, it's holding up tax reform, infrastructure, a number of other things so they're all bunching together, so it's incumbent upon us to not delay longer, to gift specifics of what a replacement plan is all about and act accordingly, and i have good faith in the president and his new budget omb director and hopefully see real responsible policy that comes from that. lou: the president saying that he will have a health care plan forward by, he believes, the middle of next month, with ryan week have heard all sorts of varying and different targets over the course of the year. there is time for action right now. this president is a man of action, and the leadership in the house and the senate right now appear to be, well, not acting as one would expect given the leadership being provided from 1600 pennsylvania. >> well, we've got to follow his lead, but also

review from agencies are due back to omb over the course of the next couple of days and we'll spend theext week working on a final budget blueprint. we expect to have that have that number to congress by march 16th. that puts us on schedule for a full budget including all the things i mentioned this one does not include with all the larger policy issues in the first part of may. so with that i'll take a couple questions. >> in order to get to your top line on the rest of the discretionary budget f you're not going to touch veterans benefits, you need to slice about 12% off of the rest of government. can't do you that without affecting the services that government provides for the people? >> that's part what have this process is this week. the numbers go out, and the numbers each agency will get its top line number along with representations from omb as to how we think they can hit that number. they may say yeah that's a good way to reach that number or come back with us with other projections. it's unusual for us to come to you this early in the process but we wanted to let everybody kn

>> i was going to say that i feel like the person who is being considered for omb is taking the fact that you have numbers to add up or not in a way that i'm not sure all of the rhetoric and all of, you know, the proposals that were part of the campaign, and it's often the part of any campaign don't necessarily add up. but if we think about some of the specific comments that have been made, it isn't possible to think about how they are all satisfied. you cannot, you know, cut taxes, guarantee that health care does not -- nobody loses health care, and we're not going to cut any entitlements, like these things don't work. and so in some ways, i feel like it's tough to be in those hearings, and have to answer these questions if you are a serious person who is trying to come up with sort of what the policies are. because almost by nature, and we've seen this in other hearings, and this gets beyond sort of states, we have seen people sort of ratchet back, or sort of pull back a little bit from some of the statements that we've seen either from the president or during the campaign. >> that

omb has been a personal even today said even though they don't indicate whether you be cutting medicare, social security and the rest, that's not off the table. can't hear? go over there. while we haven't seen all of the particulars of the budget, a budget should be a statement of our national values. what is important to us as a nation should be where we put our investments. the debate on the budget is one that has been going on for a number of years and we've come to some bottom line, some baselines about how we go forward. this is a major departure from that come with a high concentration of billions of dollars on the defense side and cuts on the domestic side. we reviewed the strength of our country to be measured certainly in the source of our strength of our military, but also into education of our children, health and well-being and welfare of the american people. so this budget that has gone forth should be no surprise because it's a reflection of some of the attitudes of the director of omb who even today said that cuts in medicaid and medicare and the entitlements are not off

omb just sent out about revised circular a-123 and talked about enterprise risk management. that's a fundamentally different way of viewing how you run the federal government. you want to encourage risk. you want to encourage appropriate risk and reward it. and that's the same thing with performance measures and performance management for federal employees. you want tone courage risk. you want to encourage rewards for those high-flying innovative employees. >> my time has expired, so i don't want to take up more than i should. but if there are other -- >> i think mr. cox is going to burst if he doesn't have a chance to comment on this. >> mr. contradiction i'd love to hear your comments. >> senator portman, i agree. in looking with removing poor performers, the probationary period i don't think is adequately looked at and reviewed by managers. high number of federal employees -- >> the one-year period? >> high, high numbers have a two-year period, and now in all of d.o.d., it is two year, and most title 38 and the va are two years. so i'd say that we are moving pretty much t

the new omb director, just gave us the numbers today. we just processed them. haven't even processed them yet. with a new president coming in, you get top lines and then you get the budget later on. this is exactly how the system is supposed to work. we're very excited that they're giving us the numbers this early in the process so we can move forward with processing our budgets. >> speaker ryan -- listen, you talked about the need for entitlement reform in the past. the president has made clear he doesn't want to touch entitlements. >> repealing and replacing obamacare is entitlement reform. >> is there an opportunity with this president for bipartisan relations and to pass gridlock? >> we haven't seen much of it in the senate yet. i'm hopeful the fever is about to break. we'll confirm the secretary of commerce today with a bipartisan vote. we'll begin to moving in the direction of some semblance of normalcy. thank you. >> thank you. >> shepard: mitch mcconnell, paul ryan speaking after a meeting with the president live at the white house. john roberts is on t

how do you see the differences between the proposed leader of the omb and the trump administration? >> i was going to say that i feel like the person who is being considered for omb is taking the fact that you have numbers that have to add up or not seriously in a way that i am not sure all of the rhetoric and all of the proposals that were part of the campaign, and in his anynse is often the part of campaign that don't add up. if we think about some of the specific comments that have been possible tonot think about how they are all satisfied. you cannot cut taxes come --rantee that health care nobody loses health care, and have entitlements. these things do not work. it is tough to be in those hearings and answer these questions if you are a serious person who is trying to come up with what the policies are because almost by nature, and we have seen this and other ablengs, we have seen ratchet back or pull back from statements from the president. workat is common, we all to make sure the numbers add up. pushing.t there kim reuben has a paper. -- an excellent paper. be sure to read

. >> is i can't confirm that the omb is working on a budgetary -- i'm not going to get ahead of the omb, they are talking to interested parties about funding levels but we're not at a position -- >> since the dhs guidance did not eliminate daca, does that mean it's a civil matter and not going away? >> no, jordan what it means is that this particular enforcement is tailored to what i've been referencing over an over again the implementation of those two executive orders one specifically that's tasking the agencies under dhs to address a very specific problem of the million or so plus or minus people they have identified, that they have been adjudicated with already gone through the process to be adjudicated and take b out taken out of the country. what it means more than anything is that this order does not address that and it's very clear in the q&a and refer you back to the dhs's website that has all that. >> it's within one month on the job for you and the president and are already talk around the globe. i have two questions. one -- >> my wife would disagree with you. it's not always

beyond that, i'm not going to get ahead of the omb director right now. they are drafting a budget, they are talking to members of congress and other interested parties about funding levels and such, but we're not at a position to go yet. yes. reporter: sean, just wanted to circle on alexis's question. since the dhs guidance did not eliminate daca, does that mean that the program is remaining in place, that it's a settled matter and it's not going away? mr. spicer: no, jordan. what it means is that this particular enforcement is tailored to what i have been referencing over and over again -- that what we're talking about today is the implementation of those two executive orders, one specifically that's tasking the agencies under dhs to address a very specific problem of the million or so, plus or minus, people that they have identified, that they have then adjudicated with already going through the process to be adjudicated and taken out of the country. reporter: that means a decision on daca could come any day. mr. spicer: exactly. what it means, more th

congressman mark walker: choosing mick mulvaney as omb director was the strongest message that fiscalesponsibility is important. to me that laid down a huge line from this administration saying that we are going to make fiscal responsibility a high priority, i have full confidence in mick and hope he gets past senate confirmation. scott: but president trump campaigned on promises to cut taxes and spend more. pres. trump: we're cutting taxes for the middle class, and i'll tell you we are cutting them big league for the middle class. we are going to fix our inner cities, and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals, we are going to rebuild our infrastructure. maya macguineas: i am worried. i am worried because i think a lot of promises were made in the campaign that have big price tags with them. we have over-promised, we have over-borrowed, we need to deal with that first. scott: maya macguineas leads a bipartisan group that studies u.s. fiscal policy. she says trump's proposals would add another $5 trillion to the debt. maya macguineas: the question is, wha

brian: omb is wrong. >> i'm not saying anybody is wrong. i think this is what is going to happen, brian. i think our country is going to sail. steve: you announced by twitter you are not going to the white house correspondence dinner. how come? >> i'm not a hypocrite. i haven't been treated properly. that's okay. that is fine. steve: some the left say you can't take a joke. >> oh, do they say that? no. well, i have taken it you know, one ever the great misconceptions when president obama was up -- what is it now a long time ago, five years ago or whatever, i loved that evening. steve: you were there. >> i was there. brian: you were the target. steve: you were the piÑata. >> can i be honest? i had the greatest time. i can't act like i am thrilled. i'm going to change the white house to trump house and other things. and he was very, i thought he did a good job and he was very respectful and it was fun answered enjoyed it and i left. told the press did you have a good time i said it was fantastic. the next day i read donald trump felt terrible

carper and i and chairman and i and others worked on this over the years including when i was back at omb. can you give us, mr. dough dare he row, a report on that part of the real property high-risk over the years you've identified? where are we on the disposal of these properties? >> the one -- [inaudible] my understanding they received a successful bid and transferring that. there is some progress but not a lot. why i think this legislation congress passed last year to set up a independent board to identify high value real properties. some of the properties are not worth a lot and need a lot of repair and agencies haven't had enough money to fix up the properties to make them appealing or attractive for sale. one area i think hasn't been explored very much, another area on our list is the postal service. they have a lot of vacant space now i think could perhaps be rented out to other federal agencies. that could create other vacant space that could be sold and transferred. so, the bottom line answer to your question there is some progress incrementally but not as much as -- >> one reas

the state of the promise, that he won't touch it for current retirees. >> i think what the omb director made clear is how it works. the budget is dealing with top line numbers. budget discretion is not part of it. >> i want the state of the promise. >> the state of the promise is clear. as you point out he made the promise. >> what is the promise, curt retirees, people near retirement, anybody paying into -- >> i will follow on that more specifically but i think the president has made it clear that's not what he wants to do. he wants to focus on the discretionary side. that entitlement reform, with respect to those items that he mentioned he stands by his word. fred? >> i want to ask you. the executive order on religious freedom had previously been in the works. will that still come in and if it does, will it extend beyond religious freedom? >> i'm sorry, fred, what? >> will it extend beyond. >> i think we've discussed executive orders in the past. for the most part we are not going to get into discussing what may or may not come until we are ready to i about it forward. owe livier. >>

beyond that i'm not going to get ahead of the omb director.y are drafting a budget, they are talking to members of congress and other interested parties about funding levels and such, but we're not at a position to go yet. yes. >> sean, just square the circle on the -- [inaudible] the dhs guidance did not eliminate daca, does that mean the program is remaining place, it's a settled matter and it's not going away? >> no, jordan. what it means is that this particular enforcement is tailored to what i've been referencing over and over again, that what we're talking about today is the implementation of those two executive orders, one specifically that's tasking the agencies under dhs to address a very specific problem of the million or so plus or minus people that they have identified that have been adjudicated having, already gone through the process to be adjudicated and taken out of the country. >> [inaudible] >> that's right, exactly. it just means that -- what it means more than anything is that this order does not address that, and it's very

omb's say you drop and n-b and the democrats say that is hate speech and we are going to lock you up. on the other hand, a republican has legislation and they hear a say that isic and not godly, we need to lock you up, that is problematic. can you imagine telling your children, here is a father maybe that has a career with a nice company and says, sorry, kids, i have got to go to jail because i said and f-bomb. the logisticsty, of putting in hate legislation is dependent upon the party that is in power. in my opinion there should never be hate speech legislation. host: republican line from tennessee, we were here next from john. good morning. caller: republican. i have heard a lot of good information i would like to respond to. those --y, i am one of two-time penalties. i would like to go back and explain my story. i graduated in the top 10% of my college and high school, university of tennessee. caused my downfall, and i will get to the first amendment, be surprised. we have a lot of people who die of cancer at 20. and they hit me at 20. i still graduated with honors. i was a victim

we've had series of meetings with omb, agency on the high-risk list and gao which i personally participate in and that's, i think, had some benefits and showing progress. >> go ahead. >> mr. thompson, how are you doing? >> i'm doing fine, thank you. >> very nice to see you. nice to see you. give us one thing that we can do at our end in addition to what we've already done with respect to the census to make sure the next census comes in on time, on budget, maybe even under budget. what are one or two things this committee and the congress need to do to be a good partner? >> thank you for the opportunity, senator carper. so as i said in my testimony, in my oorral testimony, one of the issues we're dealing with is the uncertainty of our funding. i know this isn't appropriations, but i know that we've gotten good support so far from both the congress and from omb and the administration and if that continues, that will be very good. like i said, we are in a very, very pivotal year right now, 2017, we'd like to get uncertainty lifted there and we also are looking forward to working with the admi

simply putting a functioning government together -- i mean, he finally got his omb director.ut i was told that most of those other key appointment jobs are not filled at this point. and they've got to do something about putting a budget together. >> he's got nine of his 15 confirmed. sorry. 10 of the 15 cabinet-level positions, if we count the u.s. ambassador as some do. all these deputies, the reason they matter is they're the ones who actually run things. tillerson, general mattis, general kelly. they go to the press conference, the ribbon cutting. these are the folks underneath who actually run things. the fact that qualified people all across the country have said no, competent managers who have done this work before are saying no, is a sign of real trouble. the labor secretary pick that he brought in, the replacement, is a guy who served george w. bush in the justice department. but that was hastily done. they made a few phone calls. he said, would you like the job? the guy basically said yes. we'll see whether he sticks with it. >> weigh in on the fact that you have pot

and some of the specific statutes have tried to deal with this on the irs side and omb side, but any thoughts that you have on that when somebody is not performing and going through the proper procedures, how do you you assure that person is giving the opportunity to leave so that others can take the positions, and feel if they are performing well, their performanceing being valued, and the third one to the broad issue of performance measur measures, and you will recall the p.a.r.t. scores not without controversy to measure the performance of the agencies and the personnel, and part of it is to look at how people were motivated an empowered and whether it is working. we have a new administration, and opportunity to look at how to encourage better management and federal agencies, and what do you think of that? if we could just quickly start on the issue of hiring. again, maybe that is something that we have had discuss canned and i like the idea mr. corsi for you the cut back on the l layers of bureaucracy, but any other quick thoughts on that? >> well, i would like to speak on that f

omb will be involved on procurement process.at is incorporated in the larger budget in may. >> not just like blanket, throw money. >> no, sir. last one. >> account for spending for president's wall, $30 billion for this year or 64 billion-dollar increase? is that assuming money for the wall, how to pay for the wall? >> more likely, a little bit of both. we do expect to include some money in a future supplemental for 2017 for the wall and 28 teach budget will contain longer term budgets. >> split between the two? >> i believe that will be case. thank you very much. >> thank you, director. let me get back to, in a second, april. this morning the president dropped by the national governors association meeting where 49 governors from both states and territories joined cabinet members and senior white house staff to discuss where they can work together to rebuild the country and start the economy. while at meeting the president delivered a statement on forthcoming budget proposal he will submit march 16th as you heard the director me

democrats, are they justified in feeling more empowered to resist not just pruitt at epa or mulvaney at ombms soft on that but do you see them getting more resolute in resisting candidates? >> i think they are going to be more resolute. i think this nomination and the withdrawal of this nomination shows the importance of organizing. there was an unprecedented effort by not only organized labor, by advocacy groups, womens groups against puzder, this was a unique candidate who had a long history, a business record, controversial statements, personal record that was troubling to many people. you know, it's my hope that the president finds somebody who's more in the mainstream of where most american people are. but also who doesn't bring this baggage that andy puzder had. >> we'll be looking for names to drop. obviously puzder was a long-time supporter of the president from before the election. guys, preerappreciate your time. chris lu, lanhee chen, thank you. >>> when we come back preparing for the snap ipo roadshow. and next, republican congressman jeb hensarling will join rick santelli. we'l

that does not solve the problems of real looking for word with the omb director and congress with the appropriation process because you are right what will happen if we are reducing and cutting staff is the waste fraud and abuse is there what they admit to the taxpayer? >> to be posted publicly. >> double-a-2 see that -- i would like to see that with that hiring freeze. and the protections. the difference is 36 of 73 are nominated by the president to be confirmed by the senate budget 37 appointed by the agency heads. >> is it tied to the agency? >> is. >> my time is expired thank you for the working do for our country. i love the peace corps. ha why a grand jury was never impaneled one thing i want to make clear it covers not only what the fbi did but the department does well so another concern why a grand jury would have immunity agreement allowing subjects of the investigation into the infamous airport meeting all of that could be looked at to make it was reported your only trying to look at the fbi? the will only focus on one paying you have been very up-front about of bribery and

in fact, back when i was at omb. can you give us, mr. dodaro, a report on that part of the real property high risk that you over the years have identified? where are we on the disposal of these properties? >> [ inaudible ]. >> my understanding is they've received a successful bid and they'll be transferring that. so there's some progress. but there's not a lot. i think that's why the legislation that congress passed last year to set up this independent board to identify some high value real properties. some of the properties aren't worth a lot, or need a lot of repair. the agencies haven't had enough money to fix up the properties, to make them appealing, or attractive for sale. one area that i think hasn't been explored very much, and another area on our list is the postal service. they have a lot of vacant space now that i think could be perhaps rented out to other agencies. and then that could create other vacant space that could be sold and transferred. so the bottom line is, to answer your question is, there's been some progress inc

he was the only republican mccain to vote against the president's choice for omb and called for an administrationer the trump administration had ties to russia. ties to russia? he hasn't read a paper. and slammed the president's order on extreme vetting and nerve to call australia's ambassador to reconfirm our a liiance after fake news leaks. i am sure the prime minister was much relieved. it is a good time in my opinion for senator mccain to recall that he is not our president and donald trump is thankfully and due the respect of the senator. our quotation of the evening. this from marcus on bitterness. here is a rule to remember in the future. when anything tempts you to feel bitter and not this is misfortune, but to it bear this worthily is good fortune. we're coming right back. stay with us. >> throughout the activist targeting republican town hall. there is a manufactured base and also people that are upset. but when you look at some of the districts and things, it is not a representations of a member's district. >> lou: we'll discuss the left's efforts. and we'll talk with jim demint next.

to the house trimming it by a few billion dollars and that's not where trump is coming from, or the omb director mulvaney is coming from. if you look at the way you slice up the budget pie. steve mnuchin said we won't worry about entitlements. what you have in the debt, you take out the defense. you are looking at 15% slice. if that's all mulvaney and trump are going to talk about. but there will be applauding, finding a couple 10.10 coupons off a $3 trillion budget. kennedy: you know, it's something that the president doesn't necessarily like to address. that goes back to his populism. so doesness this infrastructure plan he's got upward of a trillion dollars. that's on top of the border wall that mexico is not going to pay for right now. and at some point you are not going to have enough coming in for all that's going out with this giant new wish list. >> as we look at this a quasi state of the union address, what i used to love to do is looking at who didn't stand whenner else in his party stood. justin amash might be standing there all day. how many conservative lawmakers have done

information and regulatory assessment, which is in the omb and was created by the paperwork reduction i -- well, what do yo. want? you know so many examples of this in washington. anyway, was charged with reviewing regulatory agenda d.c. to what extent the agenda was consistent with the president's agenda. but then under clinton, the mission was expanded so that ali iraq issued directives telling telling them that the pressure to talk to him after that. they complained bitterly about when b the actions that the incoming direct or met with the outgoing director. i'm tempted to name these people. like that time a talker. i said to her, how did the meeting go? she said i thought that he was going to condemn everythingg questi that. actually he said we would gain of changing the name of these direct days because our party suggests regulatory directives. what would you think about that? at any rate, the president does have some impact on the regulatory agenda. but this is similar to the impact that tocqueville described when he talked about the roman emperor. he said the emperor has vast p

omb has ideas to make the reductions. >> where are you looking, director?? you must have some idea? >> we look at everything. we know the agencies. that's what the professionals at omb do, people go lin this is effective that one is not. what do you think? can we take cuts here? >> congressman, i know you know this because you have served in congress. but when you look at the budget as a pie chart, more than half of it is what is called mandatory spending right, and most of that is entitlement. and then discretionary spending. so the nondiscretionary is a small chunk. if you make increases you'll have to cut it back. when will we know from the white house about what you're cutting? >> march 16th is the day we announced we would go to congress and say here is our final budget blueprint and have details on the specific programs we intend to reduce. >> beautiful, mick mulvaney, thanks for being here. >>> and gayle and i will be with scott pelley and the rest of the politicaam to congress. it begins at 9:00 p.m. eastern, 8:00 central. we'll have a wrap up with